Just some way to have less kids. That's it. Not sure how it could be done.
War is rather terrible and we should learn from all the past bloodshed. Doubt it will happen, but I wish like almost everyone else that war would be a thing of the past.
I wish there was a way to get people comfortable with the idea that having kids is not a right but a privilege. I know enforcing some kind of eugenics policy could be terribly abused and end miserably, but what else is there? What are we actually going to do?
If we want to have a nice future for humanity we should really try to control our numbers a little more. I've studied this stuff quite a bit and I am not sure how we are going to manage otherwise.
I would advocate for stricter laws on who is able to have children somehow. That's it. I understand however that this is probably never going to happen, and because of this, our future looks pretty risky.
Maybe a one child policy i would support that. two at most, so the sibling will have a brother or sister to grow up with and not be that lonely child
i still hold firm that having a child is a fundamental right for all humans but with a limit. one two at most, but still they should have the opportunity to do so in their one lifetime
48% of the world lives in sub replacement fertility. That's us. We don't need a law to prohibit us from breeding even less, because we're already going extinct. Telling people in this half of the world to go extinct just to make more room for the already vastly overpopulated and overrepresented peoples in Africa and Asia is a dreadful and extremist position. People are not just interchangeable socio-economic units, and the balance of worldwide diversity must be maintained moving forward, or else we've lost a part of humanity for all time.
We all need to agree to keep a replacement fertility rate of roughly two children per woman. That means we need to breed slightly more, but other parts of the world need to breed much less in order to maintain balance and peace in the world, without anybody going extinct in the world. That's only fair and sane. You can't just use the already crushed and belittled women of third world as a sort of livestock, a perpetual population factory just because we cannot be bothered to do our biological duty ourselves. Why don't you just lay off the handful of people having a couple of kids here, suggesting brilliant draconian fertility laws for an already extinction level fertility rate, and instead help the women in the third world you're so casually using as baby factories perhaps do something else with their lives once they've had just the 2.1 kids, instead of pushing the ecological envelope and praying to export the surplus to an extinct West.
You make good points. Thanks for your input. We need to focus on the third world; that's where this is a problem. I should be more specific when I post next time.
I don't understand how what I said suggested that I wanted to use the women in the third world as livestock for breeding, tell me how that works. To be very clear, I do not support that.
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I see it everywhere, everyone has an incredibly strong desire to reproduce.
The thing is, we are already exceeding our carrying capacity on this earth. We need to make some tough choices.
I know this is somewhat off topic, but I believe it is incredibly important to consider this.
Our collective future is at stake if we continue breeding like we do. Something has to be done. FAST.
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When you say "we"... I think your concerns as to who is "exceeding the carrying capacity on this earth (sic)" are a bit misplaced.
Rank Country Fertility rate
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1 Niger 6.89
2 Mali 6.16
3 Burundi 6.14
4 Somalia 6.08
5 Uganda 5.97
6 Burkina Faso 5.93
7 Zambia 5.76
8 Malawi 5.66
9 Afghanistan 5.43
10 Angola 5.43
11 South Sudan 5.43
12 Mozambique 5.27
13 Nigeria 5.25
14 Ethiopia 5.23
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194 Spain 1.48
195 Belarus 1.47
196 Cuba 1.46
197 Estonia 1.46
198 Cyprus 1.46
199 Croatia 1.45
200 Bulgaria 1.44
201 Austria 1.43
202 Germany 1.43
203 Czech Republic 1.43
204 Serbia 1.42
205 Italy 1.42
206 Hungary 1.42
207 Greece 1.41
208 Japan 1.40
209 Slovakia 1.39
210 Andorra 1.38
211 Latvia 1.35
212 Slovenia 1.33
213 Poland 1.33
214 Romania 1.32
215 Ukraine 1.30
216 Lithuania 1.29
217 Montserrat (UK) 1.29
218 Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.26
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Oh, I see. I was speaking about humanity generally. If you average it out across all countries, we are still rising in numbers.
what are you proposing?
Like have a war?
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Just some way to have less kids. That's it. Not sure how it could be done.
War is rather terrible and we should learn from all the past bloodshed. Doubt it will happen, but I wish like almost everyone else that war would be a thing of the past.
I wish there was a way to get people comfortable with the idea that having kids is not a right but a privilege. I know enforcing some kind of eugenics policy could be terribly abused and end miserably, but what else is there? What are we actually going to do?
If we want to have a nice future for humanity we should really try to control our numbers a little more. I've studied this stuff quite a bit and I am not sure how we are going to manage otherwise.
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Maybe a one child policy i would support that. two at most, so the sibling will have a brother or sister to grow up with and not be that lonely child
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I hope we can figure things out. I hope that could work.
I think if we cannot give everyone food water and shelter already, why should we continue breeding so much? It's not going to help our situation.
If people want kids perhaps they can adopt instead. We should really consider getting more comfortable with these sorts of things.
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48% of the world lives in sub replacement fertility. That's us. We don't need a law to prohibit us from breeding even less, because we're already going extinct. Telling people in this half of the world to go extinct just to make more room for the already vastly overpopulated and overrepresented peoples in Africa and Asia is a dreadful and extremist position. People are not just interchangeable socio-economic units, and the balance of worldwide diversity must be maintained moving forward, or else we've lost a part of humanity for all time.
We all need to agree to keep a replacement fertility rate of roughly two children per woman. That means we need to breed slightly more, but other parts of the world need to breed much less in order to maintain balance and peace in the world, without anybody going extinct in the world. That's only fair and sane. You can't just use the already crushed and belittled women of third world as a sort of livestock, a perpetual population factory just because we cannot be bothered to do our biological duty ourselves. Why don't you just lay off the handful of people having a couple of kids here, suggesting brilliant draconian fertility laws for an already extinction level fertility rate, and instead help the women in the third world you're so casually using as baby factories perhaps do something else with their lives once they've had just the 2.1 kids, instead of pushing the ecological envelope and praying to export the surplus to an extinct West.
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You make good points. Thanks for your input. We need to focus on the third world; that's where this is a problem. I should be more specific when I post next time.
I don't understand how what I said suggested that I wanted to use the women in the third world as livestock for breeding, tell me how that works. To be very clear, I do not support that.
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I know you wouldn't say that, nobody sane would explicitly advocate that but it is the logical result of what many of them believe.