Thats the terms for the public. Within the FBI they class it as 3 killings with about a week in between each. So that the killings would have to take place over a month or so. If the killer doesn't last a month he's a spree killer. Mental illness has nothing to do with it, the term "serial killer" is broad because the people themselves cover a broad range. There is a point to the term, as it simply seperates some retard who goes postal/suicidal from built up anger one day (mass murderer), and someone out of control with no direction but with no apparent suicidal tendancy (spree killer). A serial killer is quite different as they don't want to die (infact they value themselves quite highly) and doesn't plan on getting seen or caught. Most of the former kill out of frustration, the latter kills for "enjoyment" and a sense of purpose they feel towards their actions. The serial killers aren't deranged like the other two and are bar two cases in history, always sane. There is quite a point in having the term, thats why it exists. Don't read internet bull, FBI profilers have written some great books on the topic.
Well that explains why you don't get the term being used doesn't it. I agree with the FBI, because unlike you they know what they're talking about. It's their job. Also many of the things I mentioned are documented facts, so they aren't up for debate.
It's 3 people min. It hasn't been 2-3 since the 80's.
"The term spree killer is useless, according to law enforcement" Yeah law enforcement, not the profilers who invented the terms and whos job it is to catch them. Like i said if you read a book instead of the garbage on the net, you'd know that one of the reasons these people avoid capture so long is that "law enforcement" don't know dick about them, most cops never see a serial killer in their lifetime. The FBI has their own units that deal with serial killers.
I guarantee you! There are no exceptions when you know the correct diagnostic terms, every one of them can be placed in either serial, mass or spree. You will not be able come up with one name mr high-functioning retard.
And no shit you don't agree, if you knew what you were talking about then i wouldn't be posting this.
Here's another GLARING example...the DC Sniper attacks (beltway sniper). Dismantle that one, genius.
According to your 'guidelines', they are both spree AND serial killers. Again, confirming I am right. They killed several people in one day, and also carried out the killings over a 3 week period. Malvo and in some instances Muhammed also killed a few other people up to about a month BEFORE the beltway attacks started.
There's so many more examples, but just admit, you're wrong.
They are serial killers. Due to the time span lol. Like i said it can be worked out if you know what you're talking about.
You are also forgetting that even if there is an example of someone who crosses the lines of definition it doesn't make the whole term pointless as it's useful to label the hundreds more who DO fit the serial killer term. The term exists for a reason you tard, what are you going to do, throw it out because a few don't fit.
The question is simple; are there more who do fit the term, or more who don't. And because WAY more do, the term is has a valid use. Thats why it's used lol.
"The validity of spree murder as a separate category was discussed at great length. The general definition of spree murder is two or more murders committed by an offender or offenders, without a cooling-off period. According to the definition, the lack of a cooling-off period marks the difference between a spree murder and a serial murder. Central to the discussion was the definitional problems relating to the concept of a cooling-off period. Because it creates arbitrary guidelines, the confusion surrounding this concept led the majority of attendees to advocate disregarding the use of spree murder as a separate category. The designation does not provide any real benefit for use by law enforcement."
It's quite old and not upto date. Like i said, i get my info from those who invented the term, not the net. Read "whoever fights monsters" by Robert Ressler, he invented the term "serial killer". Your post was written by a bunch of different people who are in competition with him but yet still can't agree. And it's not about spree killers, we're talking about serial killers.
Like i said the "cooling off" period isn't a debate anymore, they have since said it to be 3 days to a week or more. So 3 minimum.
The Unabomber....easy. I have more in mind but there's a real easy example. Methods+intent+results do not equal a simple definition of any of those terms.
Is it normal I think we need to throw out the term 'Serial Killer'?
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Thats the terms for the public. Within the FBI they class it as 3 killings with about a week in between each. So that the killings would have to take place over a month or so. If the killer doesn't last a month he's a spree killer. Mental illness has nothing to do with it, the term "serial killer" is broad because the people themselves cover a broad range. There is a point to the term, as it simply seperates some retard who goes postal/suicidal from built up anger one day (mass murderer), and someone out of control with no direction but with no apparent suicidal tendancy (spree killer). A serial killer is quite different as they don't want to die (infact they value themselves quite highly) and doesn't plan on getting seen or caught. Most of the former kill out of frustration, the latter kills for "enjoyment" and a sense of purpose they feel towards their actions. The serial killers aren't deranged like the other two and are bar two cases in history, always sane. There is quite a point in having the term, thats why it exists. Don't read internet bull, FBI profilers have written some great books on the topic.
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Well at least I'm not the one debating proven facts with a bunch of arguments from ignorance.
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oh buuuuuuuurn!
So high functioning, in fact, that you like to debate facts, not opinions or theories
Well that explains why you don't get the term being used doesn't it. I agree with the FBI, because unlike you they know what they're talking about. It's their job. Also many of the things I mentioned are documented facts, so they aren't up for debate.
It's 3 people min. It hasn't been 2-3 since the 80's.
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Well the term spree killer is useless, according to law enforcement.
It's all opinions. Guarantee you there's exceptions to every 'rule', which is why I find it useless.
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"The term spree killer is useless, according to law enforcement" Yeah law enforcement, not the profilers who invented the terms and whos job it is to catch them. Like i said if you read a book instead of the garbage on the net, you'd know that one of the reasons these people avoid capture so long is that "law enforcement" don't know dick about them, most cops never see a serial killer in their lifetime. The FBI has their own units that deal with serial killers.
I guarantee you! There are no exceptions when you know the correct diagnostic terms, every one of them can be placed in either serial, mass or spree. You will not be able come up with one name mr high-functioning retard.
And no shit you don't agree, if you knew what you were talking about then i wouldn't be posting this.
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Here's another GLARING example...the DC Sniper attacks (beltway sniper). Dismantle that one, genius.
According to your 'guidelines', they are both spree AND serial killers. Again, confirming I am right. They killed several people in one day, and also carried out the killings over a 3 week period. Malvo and in some instances Muhammed also killed a few other people up to about a month BEFORE the beltway attacks started.
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They are serial killers. Due to the time span lol. Like i said it can be worked out if you know what you're talking about.
You are also forgetting that even if there is an example of someone who crosses the lines of definition it doesn't make the whole term pointless as it's useful to label the hundreds more who DO fit the serial killer term. The term exists for a reason you tard, what are you going to do, throw it out because a few don't fit.
The question is simple; are there more who do fit the term, or more who don't. And because WAY more do, the term is has a valid use. Thats why it's used lol.
I think if you read this information from the FBI you may realize you're wrong on most, if not all of your points.
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-1#two
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"The validity of spree murder as a separate category was discussed at great length. The general definition of spree murder is two or more murders committed by an offender or offenders, without a cooling-off period. According to the definition, the lack of a cooling-off period marks the difference between a spree murder and a serial murder. Central to the discussion was the definitional problems relating to the concept of a cooling-off period. Because it creates arbitrary guidelines, the confusion surrounding this concept led the majority of attendees to advocate disregarding the use of spree murder as a separate category. The designation does not provide any real benefit for use by law enforcement."
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It's quite old and not upto date. Like i said, i get my info from those who invented the term, not the net. Read "whoever fights monsters" by Robert Ressler, he invented the term "serial killer". Your post was written by a bunch of different people who are in competition with him but yet still can't agree. And it's not about spree killers, we're talking about serial killers.
Like i said the "cooling off" period isn't a debate anymore, they have since said it to be 3 days to a week or more. So 3 minimum.
The Unabomber....easy. I have more in mind but there's a real easy example. Methods+intent+results do not equal a simple definition of any of those terms.
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Methods+intent+results have nothing to do with anything, you are very confused as to how they label a "serial killer"
The unabomber killed three people over a very extended time, he fits perfectly into the term "serial killer"
How he killed them and why isn't a factor in the term as every serial killer has his/her own reasons.