How are white males the most entitled mass of humanity? Are you telling me that places like in the middle-east where women are forced to wear burkas for male purpose and how they treat people over there isn't as bad as what white men do here? o_0
That mixed with the fact that white women have all this affirmative action that can make a less qualified woman get the job as opposed to a man, white or not, more qualified not getting the job? 0_0
As for your second paragraph, I don't know how you can brand that on white men. Asian men are doing that far more than white men are. I believe some people call it the phenomenon of herbivore men or something like that...So, not sure how you can say white men are out of touch with reality when there's a bigger group doing exactly what you said there. >_>
I don't think the numbers back up your statements at all. Per capita, white males in the US and Europe have more computers and internet access, free of limitations, than any other group on earth, probably more than all other groups put together. They certainly have the affluence.
So you didn't get the promotion or job you thought you deserved. That doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Sorry, I don't agree with you at all and I don't think others doing well, lessens anything I do.
I was moreso talking about the entitlement and the love of fictional characters. I think it's pretty normal for people to use computers.
No, it's not happened to me. I'm just saying that if white men are the most entitled today then howcome women in primarily white areas have this affirmative action? So I'm not sure what your point there was but it just seemed like a comment to disregard what was said in the sense of "If it didn't happen to me then it doesn't happen" type of thing, and I know you're not the type of person to see that as a reasonable response, Gypsy.
Are you saying that you don't think males in the middle-east feel more entitled than white males? Or that Asians are moreso falling in love with fictional characters than white males? I'm not sure how you can deny that if you just Googled the issue
Come on, man. You're being weird about this for some reason.
Most men in the Middle East and Asia have a pretty difficult time putting food on the table for their families to eat. That isn't entitlement to me.
Women have all these organizations because they do not feel they are treated equally. They really are mostly ineffective noisy groups that the politicians use to placate the activists and garner votes. Affirmative action is a political action to get votes, and has never been a beneficial system for any but a tiny few.
Women's rights are no threat to men's rights. We don't go down because they go up.
Just because they have harsher living condisions does not mean that they can't feel entitled in certain aspects. Are you saying that men that force women in to a burka, don't let them drive, don't let them vote, can force women in to marriage, can genitally mutilate female children, don't feel entitled because they have a bad time bringing home food? I won't deny that you're right about them having it harsher when it comes to food and living conditions but I can't say that I agree that it means they can't feel entitled over what they do have around them.
Feeling like you're being mistreated is not the same as being mistreated. As a result of this idea that women are entitled to more for less they put business owners in irritating situations where they can't always employ the best person for the job because they have to meet a quota.
I know women's rights are no threat to men's rights. People probably will laugh at me for saying this but I'm a WRA aswell as an MRA. I'm just not willing to think that anything that benefits women is progressive when it comes at an unfair expense on others, for example like when a woman couldn't pass the fitness test for being employed as a firefighter and because of this whole PC issue, she now is a firefighter despite showing incapability, which can put some unlucky family in a tricky situation if their house goes aflame.
I agree that minorities' rights shouldn't cause white men to end up losing rights. I'm not a big fan of affirmative action. I would hope that a firefighter or someone in a similar position would be able to do the lifting. In that case, the requirements would have to exclude anyone who couldn't lift, be it a weaker man or a female.
I just want women to be respected for the many things they can do equally well as men. And I just don't want women to be forced into the role of a 2nd class citizen.
Well you don't need to worry about women becoming 2nd class citizens in places like the US and all given that such places cater to women a whole lot. Aha.
IIN I'm sick of white males complaining?
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How are white males the most entitled mass of humanity? Are you telling me that places like in the middle-east where women are forced to wear burkas for male purpose and how they treat people over there isn't as bad as what white men do here? o_0
That mixed with the fact that white women have all this affirmative action that can make a less qualified woman get the job as opposed to a man, white or not, more qualified not getting the job? 0_0
As for your second paragraph, I don't know how you can brand that on white men. Asian men are doing that far more than white men are. I believe some people call it the phenomenon of herbivore men or something like that...So, not sure how you can say white men are out of touch with reality when there's a bigger group doing exactly what you said there. >_>
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I don't think the numbers back up your statements at all. Per capita, white males in the US and Europe have more computers and internet access, free of limitations, than any other group on earth, probably more than all other groups put together. They certainly have the affluence.
So you didn't get the promotion or job you thought you deserved. That doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Sorry, I don't agree with you at all and I don't think others doing well, lessens anything I do.
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I was moreso talking about the entitlement and the love of fictional characters. I think it's pretty normal for people to use computers.
No, it's not happened to me. I'm just saying that if white men are the most entitled today then howcome women in primarily white areas have this affirmative action? So I'm not sure what your point there was but it just seemed like a comment to disregard what was said in the sense of "If it didn't happen to me then it doesn't happen" type of thing, and I know you're not the type of person to see that as a reasonable response, Gypsy.
Are you saying that you don't think males in the middle-east feel more entitled than white males? Or that Asians are moreso falling in love with fictional characters than white males? I'm not sure how you can deny that if you just Googled the issue
Come on, man. You're being weird about this for some reason.
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Most men in the Middle East and Asia have a pretty difficult time putting food on the table for their families to eat. That isn't entitlement to me.
Women have all these organizations because they do not feel they are treated equally. They really are mostly ineffective noisy groups that the politicians use to placate the activists and garner votes. Affirmative action is a political action to get votes, and has never been a beneficial system for any but a tiny few.
Women's rights are no threat to men's rights. We don't go down because they go up.
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Teaching women to behave like men isn't feasible and it won't work in the long run. What we are getting today is angry women and feminized men.
A beggar can feel entitled to coin.
Just because they have harsher living condisions does not mean that they can't feel entitled in certain aspects. Are you saying that men that force women in to a burka, don't let them drive, don't let them vote, can force women in to marriage, can genitally mutilate female children, don't feel entitled because they have a bad time bringing home food? I won't deny that you're right about them having it harsher when it comes to food and living conditions but I can't say that I agree that it means they can't feel entitled over what they do have around them.
Feeling like you're being mistreated is not the same as being mistreated. As a result of this idea that women are entitled to more for less they put business owners in irritating situations where they can't always employ the best person for the job because they have to meet a quota.
I know women's rights are no threat to men's rights. People probably will laugh at me for saying this but I'm a WRA aswell as an MRA. I'm just not willing to think that anything that benefits women is progressive when it comes at an unfair expense on others, for example like when a woman couldn't pass the fitness test for being employed as a firefighter and because of this whole PC issue, she now is a firefighter despite showing incapability, which can put some unlucky family in a tricky situation if their house goes aflame.
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I agree that minorities' rights shouldn't cause white men to end up losing rights. I'm not a big fan of affirmative action. I would hope that a firefighter or someone in a similar position would be able to do the lifting. In that case, the requirements would have to exclude anyone who couldn't lift, be it a weaker man or a female.
I just want women to be respected for the many things they can do equally well as men. And I just don't want women to be forced into the role of a 2nd class citizen.
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Well you don't need to worry about women becoming 2nd class citizens in places like the US and all given that such places cater to women a whole lot. Aha.