Sometimes they can't because of pain, chafed nipples, or even bleeding. Sometimes they aren't producing enough milk for the baby and the baby needs formula as a supplement or as a sole source of food. Sometimes the baby has a difficult temperament. Sometimes the mother is suffering from PND and doesn't bond with her baby. Sometimes the mother is so stressed from other factors that she is physically unable to feed her child. Sometimes there are other medical factors. Some new first time mothers do not have the education, or the access to education, about lactation, and quit through frustration brought upon themselves AND their child. Sometimes women like my stepmother are so emotionally downtrodden by their partners that they completely lack the self worth to cope with new parenthood, or anything in life, and when their partner tells them that they have to bottle feed, they do. This is just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many other reasons.
Most of those reasons would heap enough guilt on most new mothers. Them hearing that mothers who don't breast feed are scum does NOT help the already volatile situation.
Imagine you're exhausted, possibly still in pain from the birth, you've got a small baby that does not stop screaming, an earpiercing blood curdling scream. You know your child needs to be fed. You try to feed it. There is searing pain in your nipple, the child becomes more hysterical, you become more hysterical. You haven't slept properly in the week since you brought your child home. Your husband/partner has had to go back to work, leaving you alone in the house with the child. Your child doesn't seem to be gaining weight, you think you are starving your child. You want to ask for help, but you feel like a failure - breastfeeding is the most natural thing in the world, right? But you don't seem to be doing it. Why can't you get it right? You believe you're a failure as a mother. You need to stop this child screaming before you go insane. You feel like you ARE going insane.
This might sound extreme, but it happens. Not always to that level, but there will be difficulties with every new mother/baby. If there are the right people and resources around the new mum, then hopefully she will get on track, and all will be good for the whole family.
I believe that babies should be breastfed, but sometimes it is just not a possibility, for a range of reasons that can be physical, emotional or mental. I don't think it is anyone else's place to call them scum.
I'm not saying there aren't women that make the choice not to breastfeed for no reason other than they don't want to. Obviously, there are women like that, and I assume that is the sort of mother you are talking about, but I imagine they are in the minority. And once again, expressing hatred and disgust does nothing to help. You're entitled to your feelings, but it really isn't of much good to anyone.
I ranted a bit. Sorry. I do realise you were refering to mothers who CHOOSE not to breastfeed, but I also think that people don't full understand that a lot of women aren't actually making this 'choice' but are forced into it. And it can be hard to know, seeing a woman out and about, feeding a child with a bottle, why this situation has come to be.
Oh, and I forgot about mothers who go back to work, and express milk for their babies to be fed by their carers. As a nanny, I've bottle fed a lot of babies with their mother's milk, and when out in public, feeding these babies, I've been given dirty looks and heard whispers about 'young mothers being too selfish to breastfeed'.
Or even mothers who don't go back to work, but express for whatever reason and bottle feed breast milk. A little unorthodox, but it happens.
No, I didn't. I excluded people who have no choice. I know there's valid reasons why some can't breastfeed. I'm only talking about those who choose not to for no real reason (or for selfish reasons). They're scum, period.
In that case, you don't even know who you hate unless these women are wearing their "reasons" on their backs. Your feelings are wasted. Try thinking positive instead of hating people who don't follow your ideal of what good parenting is.
What? What are you talking about? Where did I state that my only criteria for passing judgement was seeing a woman feeding a baby with a bottle? I didn't state that. Obviously there's no way to tell why any random woman is bottle feeding a baby. I'm only hating on those women who I KNOW do it by choice, and the general group of non-breastfeeders (by choice) that exists. You assumed way too much, mister.
Thanks for sparing me the rant. I get annoyed with women who chose not to breastfeed but I try not to judge them too harshly. I don't know the full extent of the situation.
Although I am tired people assuming I don't plan to breast feed and give me a lecture on the benefits.
...but I cannot understand how anyone who knows you IRL would assume you were not planning on breastfeeding, what with the way you live your life...that is bizarre, and would be incredibly annoying, I'd imagine.
May I be so bold as to ask why you get annoyed with women who choose not to breastfeed. I mean does THEIR CHOICE have any impact on your life.. Whether women breast feed or not you still have to pay your mortage/rent. xx
Be bold, as long as you don't mind the same in return.
While it's true that some woman can't physically feed their child for a variety of reasons. I don't believe society should encourage it. You can call it a choice, but for me it isn't one. It is part of the whole gig. And I don't believe women who choose this route are following instinct. This is what our bodies were made to do. You don't have to do it, and I don't want you to feel bad for your choices. But I really don't understand why you wouldn't want to do this. A baby's cry can make a nursing mother lactate. That should tell you that breast feeding is the obvious reaction to that reality. Feeding formula to an infant should not be normal. This is not food. It's the bare minimum required to produce a viable life. It's like an adult drinking protein drinks and supplements instead of eating an actual meal. This is fine for temporary use, but not how we should nourish our bodies.
No I don't mind you being bold at all. If I can give it then I sure as hell have to take it and I have no problem in doing so.
Breastfeeding is just not for me though and sorry in advance but there is no way in hell that I would be comfortable breastfeeding public.
I find it quite sickening (on a personal level) before I am flamed. Reason being is one minute you could be having sex/sexual contact and your breasts being touched and then the next minute you have your baby suckling on the very same breasts that you (collective) may use for sexual pleasure. I am sorry but again on a personal level that I something I would not be comfortable with.
Just because I did not breast feed does not make me a bad mum. xx
I don't think you are a bad mum. Many people have the same hangups with breastfeeding. These hangups didn't always exist and I wonder at what point in time did society start to think it was weird?
It matters to society as a whole since breastfed babies are MUCH healthier for life.
What does it say about a woman who chooses to do something that goes against what is best for her baby?
Tax money pays for women to choose not to breastfeed. This is outrageous! Food Stamps and WIC shell out millions for baby formula for people who have no medical reason for not breastfeeding. Many on food stamps and WIC don't even work, or don't work much, so they certainly have the time to breastfeed.
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Would you advocate smoking in the room with a baby? Of course not. But what does that matter to you? It's not your room or your baby. Who cares? See? It does matter. It IS other people's business when it comes to the health of helpless children. You can certainly make a judgement based on the choices people make for their children's health.
I am just saying breast feeding is not for me, that's all. My daughter has not grown up unhealthy and the world did not come crashing down because I chose not to breast feed. You can feel free to try and make me feel bad (well I can't really stop you can I) However it will not work as I am very assertive in my choices and my reasons behind my choices. x
Is it normal I detest moms who don't breastfeed?
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Sometimes they can't because of pain, chafed nipples, or even bleeding. Sometimes they aren't producing enough milk for the baby and the baby needs formula as a supplement or as a sole source of food. Sometimes the baby has a difficult temperament. Sometimes the mother is suffering from PND and doesn't bond with her baby. Sometimes the mother is so stressed from other factors that she is physically unable to feed her child. Sometimes there are other medical factors. Some new first time mothers do not have the education, or the access to education, about lactation, and quit through frustration brought upon themselves AND their child. Sometimes women like my stepmother are so emotionally downtrodden by their partners that they completely lack the self worth to cope with new parenthood, or anything in life, and when their partner tells them that they have to bottle feed, they do. This is just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many, many other reasons.
Most of those reasons would heap enough guilt on most new mothers. Them hearing that mothers who don't breast feed are scum does NOT help the already volatile situation.
Imagine you're exhausted, possibly still in pain from the birth, you've got a small baby that does not stop screaming, an earpiercing blood curdling scream. You know your child needs to be fed. You try to feed it. There is searing pain in your nipple, the child becomes more hysterical, you become more hysterical. You haven't slept properly in the week since you brought your child home. Your husband/partner has had to go back to work, leaving you alone in the house with the child. Your child doesn't seem to be gaining weight, you think you are starving your child. You want to ask for help, but you feel like a failure - breastfeeding is the most natural thing in the world, right? But you don't seem to be doing it. Why can't you get it right? You believe you're a failure as a mother. You need to stop this child screaming before you go insane. You feel like you ARE going insane.
This might sound extreme, but it happens. Not always to that level, but there will be difficulties with every new mother/baby. If there are the right people and resources around the new mum, then hopefully she will get on track, and all will be good for the whole family.
I believe that babies should be breastfed, but sometimes it is just not a possibility, for a range of reasons that can be physical, emotional or mental. I don't think it is anyone else's place to call them scum.
I'm not saying there aren't women that make the choice not to breastfeed for no reason other than they don't want to. Obviously, there are women like that, and I assume that is the sort of mother you are talking about, but I imagine they are in the minority. And once again, expressing hatred and disgust does nothing to help. You're entitled to your feelings, but it really isn't of much good to anyone.
I ranted a bit. Sorry. I do realise you were refering to mothers who CHOOSE not to breastfeed, but I also think that people don't full understand that a lot of women aren't actually making this 'choice' but are forced into it. And it can be hard to know, seeing a woman out and about, feeding a child with a bottle, why this situation has come to be.
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Oh, and I forgot about mothers who go back to work, and express milk for their babies to be fed by their carers. As a nanny, I've bottle fed a lot of babies with their mother's milk, and when out in public, feeding these babies, I've been given dirty looks and heard whispers about 'young mothers being too selfish to breastfeed'.
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OMG! There's more!
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:-S that wasn't my intent, though.
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Regardless, it happened.
No, I didn't. I excluded people who have no choice. I know there's valid reasons why some can't breastfeed. I'm only talking about those who choose not to for no real reason (or for selfish reasons). They're scum, period.
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In that case, you don't even know who you hate unless these women are wearing their "reasons" on their backs. Your feelings are wasted. Try thinking positive instead of hating people who don't follow your ideal of what good parenting is.
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What? What are you talking about? Where did I state that my only criteria for passing judgement was seeing a woman feeding a baby with a bottle? I didn't state that. Obviously there's no way to tell why any random woman is bottle feeding a baby. I'm only hating on those women who I KNOW do it by choice, and the general group of non-breastfeeders (by choice) that exists. You assumed way too much, mister.
And, no, I didn't.
Thanks for sparing me the rant. I get annoyed with women who chose not to breastfeed but I try not to judge them too harshly. I don't know the full extent of the situation.
Although I am tired people assuming I don't plan to breast feed and give me a lecture on the benefits.
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I know I only know you over the internet...
...but I cannot understand how anyone who knows you IRL would assume you were not planning on breastfeeding, what with the way you live your life...that is bizarre, and would be incredibly annoying, I'd imagine.
May I be so bold as to ask why you get annoyed with women who choose not to breastfeed. I mean does THEIR CHOICE have any impact on your life.. Whether women breast feed or not you still have to pay your mortage/rent. xx
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Be bold, as long as you don't mind the same in return.
While it's true that some woman can't physically feed their child for a variety of reasons. I don't believe society should encourage it. You can call it a choice, but for me it isn't one. It is part of the whole gig. And I don't believe women who choose this route are following instinct. This is what our bodies were made to do. You don't have to do it, and I don't want you to feel bad for your choices. But I really don't understand why you wouldn't want to do this. A baby's cry can make a nursing mother lactate. That should tell you that breast feeding is the obvious reaction to that reality. Feeding formula to an infant should not be normal. This is not food. It's the bare minimum required to produce a viable life. It's like an adult drinking protein drinks and supplements instead of eating an actual meal. This is fine for temporary use, but not how we should nourish our bodies.
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No I don't mind you being bold at all. If I can give it then I sure as hell have to take it and I have no problem in doing so.
Breastfeeding is just not for me though and sorry in advance but there is no way in hell that I would be comfortable breastfeeding public.
I find it quite sickening (on a personal level) before I am flamed. Reason being is one minute you could be having sex/sexual contact and your breasts being touched and then the next minute you have your baby suckling on the very same breasts that you (collective) may use for sexual pleasure. I am sorry but again on a personal level that I something I would not be comfortable with.
Just because I did not breast feed does not make me a bad mum. xx
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I don't think you are a bad mum. Many people have the same hangups with breastfeeding. These hangups didn't always exist and I wonder at what point in time did society start to think it was weird?
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Thankyou for you reply. Yeah that is a good point where did people's hang ups come from. xx
It matters to society as a whole since breastfed babies are MUCH healthier for life.
What does it say about a woman who chooses to do something that goes against what is best for her baby?
Tax money pays for women to choose not to breastfeed. This is outrageous! Food Stamps and WIC shell out millions for baby formula for people who have no medical reason for not breastfeeding. Many on food stamps and WIC don't even work, or don't work much, so they certainly have the time to breastfeed.
~ALSO~
Would you advocate smoking in the room with a baby? Of course not. But what does that matter to you? It's not your room or your baby. Who cares? See? It does matter. It IS other people's business when it comes to the health of helpless children. You can certainly make a judgement based on the choices people make for their children's health.
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I am just saying breast feeding is not for me, that's all. My daughter has not grown up unhealthy and the world did not come crashing down because I chose not to breast feed. You can feel free to try and make me feel bad (well I can't really stop you can I) However it will not work as I am very assertive in my choices and my reasons behind my choices. x
Great answer, I have become educated by it.
Your comments are waaaaaay too long for anyone to read. Unless you're writing a book, brevity is the best policy.
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Your comments are way too stupid to be worthy of reading. I want those 5 seconds of my life back. I can't believe I did that.
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You're back! :D:D
Your posts are waaaaay too long. Unless you're writing a book, brevity is the best policy.
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Sorry. What's done is done, though.