Is it normal i believe men can not be raped?

I'm not referring to sex with a minor (statutory rape). And I mean, of course men can be anally raped. But as far as having their penis "taken" against their will, I just don't buy it. They wouldn't get hard (thus, able to penetrate, now making them the penetrator) if they weren't enjoying it. It can't be rape if you like / want it, right?

I may sound completely ignorant right now, but these are my honest thoughts. What are your opinions?

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  • dybex

    You question shows a staggering lack of empathy and understanding of what it is to be human. I'm not saying it shouldn't be asked, but I am concerned that you think humans are like machines. That our brains operate in simple boolean algebra.

    I don't have complete control over my body: my penis, my heart rate or my nipples. I wish I had. Put it like this: if someone with a deadly illness stroked my penis and told me they wanted to infect me through sex, I know it would get hard. Do you believe me when I tell you that I still wouldn't want to have sex with that person? If a woman has an orgasm through rape. It is still rape. If you can't understand something that basic then you are not normal.

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    • I understand. You put it a lot better than others, in a way for me to understand. Thanks.

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    • dybex

      *Your*

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      • Gamzeee

        really tho...

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  • charli.m

    It's a physical, sometimes involuntary, response that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with consent.

    I find your view offensive. And I'm female.

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    • shuggy-chan

      Im imagining a huge 300 lbs woman attacking me now WAHHHHH

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    • "Sometimes involuntary" ...what about when it isn't involuntary?
      A majority of the time, an erection is a physical response to pleasurable physical or non-physical stimulation, correct? Which leads me back to saying, they're enjoying it. Therefore, it can not be considered rape.

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      • charli.m

        Physical response to pleasurable stimulation, yes. That still doesn't imply consent. Lack of consent is what determines rape.

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        • So, every time that you had sex, you gave the man verbal permission to go ahead and put it in(considering you're a straight or bisexual female, or had at least one heterosexual sexcapade, not to offend.)? I highly doubt that.
          When the other participant is responding to you positively and they are aroused, that's usually all the consent that is needed. Implied consent, nevertheless.

          "Okay sweetie, is it okay if I put it in now?"
          "Yes honey, go ahead."

          -________- , maybe occasionally, but certainly not every single time.

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          • charli.m

            You're being silly. Consent is implied in a mutually desired incident. But if someone says no, is that consenting?

            Also, females who are raped sometimes orgasm. Physical response to pleasurable stimulation. You going to try and tell me that's not rape either?

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            • Perhaps I am. At least I stated that I may sound ignorant (in my post). I suppose you're right :/..
              but isn't the human brain a big part of achieving orgasm? If a female is terrified of what's going on and really didn't want it to occur, how could she orgasm?

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  • Anime7

    That's offensive and I'm a guy by the way. That's like me saying: "a woman can't get their vagina taken away against their will because if I slide a penis in it it will get wet regardless, nope don't buy it."

    There are physical reactions that occur to the body that don't necessarily require "happiness." If somebody touches your vagina, regardless of your consent you're probably going to get wet, just purely cause of instincts. Doesn't mean that you want it though. It's a physical reaction that happens when stimulated, regardless of your consent a physical reaction will occur.

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    • For a virgin, you know plenty about sex...

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      • Anime7

        I have friends who aren't virgins and sometimes we discuss sex. It's a pretty casual thing. And I get to look at the world from a different perspective. Also I got the above information from watching this one weird show on, I want to say science channel, called "The Science of Sex." It was pretty interesting. I was actually watching it with said friend I mentioned above who is not a virgin. It was pretty funny and it had a lot of info about sex which, like I said, was interesting.

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  • Ilovewinter12

    Rape is about power, and leaves people scarred for life.
    Personally, I'm sick of people saying men can't be raped, they can, just like how women can be raped.
    Nobody wants sex against their will, rather it's by a man, or woman.

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  • You are not normal and are exceptionally ignorant. Your opinions are dreadful.

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    • You're exceptionally ignorant. Clearly, my viewpoint has changed. I just needed someone with enough brains to explain to me why my opinion was wrong. All you could do was name call. Way to help change society, retard.

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  • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

    I think you should do more research before you write posts, because you could be putting yourself across as ignorant and insensitive.
    Of course men can be raped, by use of penis. It has happened and it will happen again.

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    • You people act like I didn't state at the end that I may sound ignorant. I already knew I would. I wanted enlightenment. I didn't want to do any research. Sue me. I wanted to come directly here and ask my question. Oh well, *shrugs*.

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  • hahaYeah

    I 100% agree with this post! :)

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    • Well, since posting this, my opinion has kind of changed. But thanks for making me feel like I wasn't alone. Everyone else sort of attacked me and resorted to name calling because they're ignorant assholes.

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  • WhatAnEntertainingMorning

    Most male victims of rape are not in that position, but in the position of having been falsely accused of rape by a vile monstrous woman who believes she OWNS sex, and as such rapes the man with her lies to destroy him, trying to hide behind self-lies such as "he only used me for sex" to try to sate their virtually-non-existant consciences. Most rapes of men are of this nature, and they are rapes that never end, except for the very few that succeed in imprisoning their attacker in todays disgusting "Woman's licence to rape" culture.

    And yes... I speak from experience - quite possibly more experience than anyone else you're likely to meet.

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    • quentari

      Actually statistically it's very unlikely that people are being falsely accused of rape, it's much more likely that the rapist didn't understand that what they were doing was rape.

      Not to say it doesn't happen, and if it truly did happen to you I'm sorry to hear about it, but it's less common than men being raped. It's less common than a lot of things.

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      • WhatAnEntertainingMorning

        You're a fool and probably a rapist yourself. Go and die. I've had more experience (falsely accused of rape by no less than 4 evil rapist whores) than probably any man alive. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I know BEYOND the statistics just how the world is currently working. You are likely a woman who has done that and is trying to sate her own non-existant conscience trying to JUSTIFY WOMEN'S LICENCE TO RAPE. Fuck you, and DIE. (I happened to - as a result of being depressed, then self-harming, then joining a chatroom where I THOUGHT the people there were like me... OH HOW WRONG I WAS. NOT BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR A WOMAN IN 7 YEARS. TOO PETRIFIED. Also been too scared to move on ONE DAY with my life because I KNOW they'd start the attack ALL OVER AGAIN... so you try to quote statistics to me, I will LAUGH IN YOUR FACE. I know better than any man alive just how bad the situation is. Please... don't say another WORD.

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        • quentari

          I did say it does happen, just not as often as people like to believe. I'm sorry that it happened to you, four times by four different people is not the norm and I am sorry that it happened to you, but that is a major anomaly.

          BUT less than 3% of rape accusations are false, and I really am sorry that it happened to you but some guys will treat your experience as an excuse to accuse every rape victim of making it up, which is more damaging that a false accusation which can easily be disproved.

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        • quentari

          Wait, did I misread something? were you raped or accused of rape? because if you were raped that's horrible and I want to raise awareness of the fact that men can be raped too. If you were accused of rape that's terrible but uncommon and nowhere near as bad as actually being raped.

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          • WhatAnEntertainingMorning

            Also - false accusation easily disproved? REALLY? The courts seemed to know damn well I never did a thing, yet they let her get away with her rape of me with no punishment, letting people think it must've been true, and in the process every judge involved made themselves accomplice to quadruple-rape. It's 4 monsters' words against mine - easily disproved? Please - tell me how. I'm gonna love this.

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            • quentari

              Did they actually rape you? calling their false accusations rape is incorrect at best, and I understand that it can be damaging for you and your reputation in the community to have those accusations made, but it's undeniably worse for a rape victim. True, your trust was violated and you suffered for it, but the average rape victim has their bodies violated and then, most of the time, either gets called a liar for "false accusations", has to face their rapist because it's someone in their life, or has to go on knowing that they are still out there. I will be honest, the 3% is america only and those are only accusations that make it to court. You are horribly unlucky in this respect but to suggest 90% of rape accusations are false is like getting mugged twice by black gangs then saying 90% of black guys will beat you for your wallet.

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          • WhatAnEntertainingMorning

            Firstly, let me appologise for my outburst. 2 bottles of wine with this never-ending rage doesn't bode well, but it was wrong of me to say some of the things I said.

            I was accused. And then the next ex knew how easy it would be to hurt me that way because someone else'd already done it before and she knew how traumatic that was.

            Then... *shakes head*... I can't even do this right now sorry.

            At least two of these people have raped multiple men, both before and after me. They have to be stopped (and yes, it IS rape, and it can be as much or far worse than an actual physical attack... because it NEVER ENDS.) And I've had death threats on the street as a result of these lies that people have believed. That has left me unable to go out of the house for fear of my life, which in turn gave me a life-threatening condition through insufficient exercise. The first time I got over it pretty easily, shrugging it off like you "she's just an abnormal freak - most people aren't like this". But then I learnt better. Sorry, but you are so wrong. SO SO wrong. 3% *shakes head* I wish I could still believe that. But I KNOW likely high 90's %age of accusations of false. I'm willing to go as low as 72% - baring in mind that I happened to find the nest of those evil creatures and never realised it until it was too late.

            If you don't want to believe me, fine, don't believe me. But I know better. I really wish I didn't, but guess what? I do.

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  • ccjigsaw

    I can see how you might think that if you've been cruising around is it normal to much recently. People on here make it seem like guys are just horny dogs.
    Men can definitely be raped, it may not be as common as women, but it's definitely a possibility. I know a guy who got molested by his female next door neighbor. He was in high school, probably about 15years old at the time. She was drunk and broke into his house while he was asleep. She was a big fat woman and she over powered him pretty easily. I feel really bad for him.. it was very traumatic and he has issues getting up now because of it

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  • Couman

    Viagra.

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  • Gamzeee

    Ugh.... I'm not even putting in the effort to get you to understand... if you don't understand it just don't worry about it.

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    • I do understand it now. Why doesn't anyone read the comments before commenting? That's becoming monotonous and irritating.

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      • Gamzeee

        You posted it.
        With a topic like that you should have been expecting major feedback.

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      • quentari

        Because after your one comments saying "I get it now" there's lots of other comments by you which is just name calling and defending your first opinion, and if you're just skimming it's easy to miss the one or two "oh okay I was wrong" comments.

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  • KingRabbit

    When people talk about raping a male, it usually means anal penetration. But not always. And plenty of men get hard ons without wanting one. Especially teens. And have you ever heard of morning wood? Waking up with a boner doesn't meant you wake up horny.

    You are being insensitive to the issue at hand. Many rapists drug the victim. They don't give concent or fight back. But their body still functions. And that is very much rape.

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  • quentari

    That is a really normal belief to have. Unfortunately it is very incorrect.

    True, most men cannot hold an erection in fear, but a lot of guys can. Some are coerced (I had a friend who's GF would threaten to kill herself when he refused her. As well as a lot of other things...) some are drugged etc.

    Orgasm is a part of the brain, yes, but you can still easily orgasm when you're scared, even when you're being physically hurt. Orgasm or enjoyment does not equal consent.

    You brought up the issue of "but you don't say 'yes stick it in' every time you have sex" BUT that would imply that the only time anyone ever has sex with anyone is in those sorts of situations. Even if a girl is dripping wet she still has the right to say no, the same goes for guys erections. True, you can get implied consent by body language (and it's common for most couples) but if he/she is leaning away from you/not responding positively you would (hopefully) ask.

    All in all I think dybex explained it best.

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    • A belief can not be incorrect. People believe what they want to believe..just saying.

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      • quentari

        Well then I believe that the sky is green. Also it's impossible to murder anyone because it's the dead persons fault. I also believe it's possible to fly is you jump off a high enough building.

        Is every belief still correct now?

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        • If you believe in your heart and soul that the sky is in fact green, you're just retarded. Or blind / colorblind. Or you aren't good with colors. You can still believe it though. No one is stopping you. It isn't "right" or "wrong", it's simply what you believe.

          Your second example made no sense. Just because you believe it was the deceased person's fault, doesn't mean that murder doesn't exist. The two have no correlation with each other whatsoever. #fail

          As for the third example, you should go try that and let me know what happens.

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          • quentari

            And just because you believe that men can't be raped doesn't mean they can't actually be raped.

            Those examples were just to show you that beliefs can be wrong. Sometimes stupidly so, sometimes dangerously. Jusst because you believe something doesn't make it true.

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            • And just because you believe something, doesn't make it false either.

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