Upon researching virtual particles, I do understand their significance in explaining models and the significance of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. However, during my research I read an article by a seemingly legitimate scholar Mark I. Vuletic. Here is the link. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
In this article Mark attempts to prove that an atheist view of the world is possible. While reading the article in its entirety, his arguments started to unravel as he says, "If one does count facts as things, then nothingness is a logical impossibility: if nothing existed, then it would be a fact that nothing existed, meaning that at least one thing (the fact that nothing exists) exists, which would, in turn, contradict the original hypothesis. Consequently, if one counts facts as things, then some fact must obtain; but, if at least one fact must obtain, why should it not be the fact that quantum mechanics applies?" To prove virtual particles based on circular reasoning and "why shouldn't you believe this?" logic did not have me convinced. That is why I was reading this, I want to know why I should believe it.
His article boiled down to illogical conclusions that "nothingness" and "nothing" are different things and that the "nothing" of physics does not truly mean "nothing." How is anything supposed to make sense if we make a proof by bending the "true" meanings of things?
And you said it yourself, all that theists and atheists have are theories and hypotheses. However, I should hope that you would be willing to research my side of things, and then compare the different evidences. Look at the accuracy of the Bible, written from eye-witnesses, precise even hundreds of years after from the finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls. This side of things may be a bit premature in our debate, so I would like to leave you with a final notion for this time.
As humans we want to discover and know everything. It is our nature to explore and conquer. It is hard to admit that we do not know everything about how we came to be and why we are here. But this is why we have faith in God. If we truly take our pride out of the picture, and trust that there are things only a divine creator could know and understand, then it becomes a lot easier to believe in God who will love you. Not scientific theories that cannot completely prove the unknown or love us at all.
Please do not take offense to anything I have said. Like I said before, we are in a respectful debate and would be much obliged with you if it stayed that way. Thank you.
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Upon researching virtual particles, I do understand their significance in explaining models and the significance of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. However, during my research I read an article by a seemingly legitimate scholar Mark I. Vuletic. Here is the link. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html
In this article Mark attempts to prove that an atheist view of the world is possible. While reading the article in its entirety, his arguments started to unravel as he says, "If one does count facts as things, then nothingness is a logical impossibility: if nothing existed, then it would be a fact that nothing existed, meaning that at least one thing (the fact that nothing exists) exists, which would, in turn, contradict the original hypothesis. Consequently, if one counts facts as things, then some fact must obtain; but, if at least one fact must obtain, why should it not be the fact that quantum mechanics applies?" To prove virtual particles based on circular reasoning and "why shouldn't you believe this?" logic did not have me convinced. That is why I was reading this, I want to know why I should believe it.
His article boiled down to illogical conclusions that "nothingness" and "nothing" are different things and that the "nothing" of physics does not truly mean "nothing." How is anything supposed to make sense if we make a proof by bending the "true" meanings of things?
And you said it yourself, all that theists and atheists have are theories and hypotheses. However, I should hope that you would be willing to research my side of things, and then compare the different evidences. Look at the accuracy of the Bible, written from eye-witnesses, precise even hundreds of years after from the finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls. This side of things may be a bit premature in our debate, so I would like to leave you with a final notion for this time.
As humans we want to discover and know everything. It is our nature to explore and conquer. It is hard to admit that we do not know everything about how we came to be and why we are here. But this is why we have faith in God. If we truly take our pride out of the picture, and trust that there are things only a divine creator could know and understand, then it becomes a lot easier to believe in God who will love you. Not scientific theories that cannot completely prove the unknown or love us at all.
Please do not take offense to anything I have said. Like I said before, we are in a respectful debate and would be much obliged with you if it stayed that way. Thank you.