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Even when you dont ask them the question? It would make sense if they wanted to make someone like them temporarily or just a quick fuck but these are women looking for longterm relationships. I dont get it
A lot of people would give a dude shit for asking this question saying it's insecurity, no one's business etc....
There is nothing wrong with asking this question of a woman. A woman in her 30s who has maybe been with 30+ men is low class. That's basically a different person for every year of her life. Dating a low class person from either gender is draining unless you're a low class person yourself.
How do you know they are lying? Do they come right out and 'fessup' later? How about being a bit more specific here.
I don't believe I've ever had a gal lie to me about that, but I've never asked. Whatever happened before we met is their business and if they don't want to share that's OK, too.
So how does it keep coming up with you enough that you feel the need for this rant?
If she asks not to use a condom, because she's only been with a few guys and it's low risk, then it's pertinent. The girl I lost my virginity with told me I was only her second. I later found out she probably lied, but I'd already fucked her without a condom. Luckily, I didn't catch anything.
I think some women also lie because they feel being seen as less morally loose, and more pure, makes them more desirable.
No sex is low risk enough to not use a condom in a new relationship or one night stand either.
If you haven't been tested you don't know that you didn't catch anything: are you so ignorant that you don't know some STD's are asymptomatic or don't show up for a while (eg AIDS)?
Your last sentence is probably correct, in contrast to men who are usually more highly regarded the more sexual partners they've had
Very normal. Girls up to maybe age 20 often tell guys that they are still virgins (when they aren't). Gals who do admit to having sex will almost always reduce their body count. White girls who have done it with a black guy will never tell a white guy they want to date that they once did a black guy. And it goes on and on, females are very prone to lying about their sexual history. So, if you meet a 19 year old who claims to be a virgin, she might be, or she might have done five guys before; you really won't be able to know the truth. If you meet a 30-year old woman who says she's only been with four guys, it could be four, or it could be forty; again, you have no way of knowing.