I don't think that "God made man out of dust" is a statement that should be interpreted literally. I think the statement meant that man was created from essentially nothing, essentially the smallest unit of life, which is the basis of the big bang theory and the theory of evolution, the creation started from the smallest building blocks and amounted to what we see now.
In my opinion, which may or may not be a fact which is why I call it my opinion, science enables human beings to better understand the mechanisms of the world around us and of what was created. It's a great thing. It sucks that many religious people can't understand that, but some of us (at least 15% of active Mormons in the church are pro-science Democrats, which is the official number) ARE open minded to what enables us to live so conveniently.
I don't know where I stated that none of the bible is meant to be taken literally.
But there is quite a bit of metaphorical content (often stemming from translation and language barriers) in the bible. The basic messages of the bible are words of wisdom and those are to be taken seriously. That's part of the challenge of finding the truth within Christianity, and all religions really. Separating bias of the hand of the man that wrote the bible and allowing yourself to be open-minded enough to transcend said language barriers and appreciate the lessons that the bible and all religious texts teach.
It's about finding the truth behind the core principals of spirituality, but if you're completely closed minded to the concepts of spirituality concerning Christianity or any other religion than my sitting here and trying to explain it to you would be in vain. I enjoy studying many religions, even though I am committed to the Christian faith. They help me gain more understanding of spirituality. Studying many religions and applying their lessons to my faith and life is a difficult concept for others to grasp.
So I'll just get to my point. In my opinion, religion and science are just two of many tools one may use to gain a further and purer understanding of the world. One must keep an open mind to all knowledge in order to gain was is true and separate what is truth from what is hype and bias within oneself.
I'm guessing you're in your 20s, still in that learning phase. A stage I passed a long time ago. I read books and threw them away after (not literally but you know what I mean).
Keep researching and maybe along the way read some stuff by Nietzsche, Bertrand Russell, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens.
As for taking the whole bible literally, I made that leap of logic, because Christians have a tendency to shy away from the more ludicrous aspects of the bible when you point them out.
And you are reading into things that are not there. When the Bible said god made man out of dust, that's exactly what it meant, because the Bible was conjured up by primitive humans who didn't understand the universe.
Just read how laughable the 'science' in the Bible is, like the Quran-all of it was taken from the knowledge of their own time.
If god wanted to prove to me that he is real only through his 'holy book', I would've been impressed and more convinced, if it contained Dirac's equation and information about antibiotics many centuries ago.
But of course you'll find none of that, which just proves it's a joke and Christians are morons for following it.
Yeah, good point, but I still appreciate the lessons that the bible teaches. I understand who is was written by but I'm still very much into theology and the metaphysical and my interests in science don't change that =/
is it normal for physicists to attend church?
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I don't think that "God made man out of dust" is a statement that should be interpreted literally. I think the statement meant that man was created from essentially nothing, essentially the smallest unit of life, which is the basis of the big bang theory and the theory of evolution, the creation started from the smallest building blocks and amounted to what we see now.
In my opinion, which may or may not be a fact which is why I call it my opinion, science enables human beings to better understand the mechanisms of the world around us and of what was created. It's a great thing. It sucks that many religious people can't understand that, but some of us (at least 15% of active Mormons in the church are pro-science Democrats, which is the official number) ARE open minded to what enables us to live so conveniently.
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well if none of the bible is meant to be taken literally then why do it?
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I don't know where I stated that none of the bible is meant to be taken literally.
But there is quite a bit of metaphorical content (often stemming from translation and language barriers) in the bible. The basic messages of the bible are words of wisdom and those are to be taken seriously. That's part of the challenge of finding the truth within Christianity, and all religions really. Separating bias of the hand of the man that wrote the bible and allowing yourself to be open-minded enough to transcend said language barriers and appreciate the lessons that the bible and all religious texts teach.
It's about finding the truth behind the core principals of spirituality, but if you're completely closed minded to the concepts of spirituality concerning Christianity or any other religion than my sitting here and trying to explain it to you would be in vain. I enjoy studying many religions, even though I am committed to the Christian faith. They help me gain more understanding of spirituality. Studying many religions and applying their lessons to my faith and life is a difficult concept for others to grasp.
So I'll just get to my point. In my opinion, religion and science are just two of many tools one may use to gain a further and purer understanding of the world. One must keep an open mind to all knowledge in order to gain was is true and separate what is truth from what is hype and bias within oneself.
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I'm guessing you're in your 20s, still in that learning phase. A stage I passed a long time ago. I read books and threw them away after (not literally but you know what I mean).
Keep researching and maybe along the way read some stuff by Nietzsche, Bertrand Russell, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens.
As for taking the whole bible literally, I made that leap of logic, because Christians have a tendency to shy away from the more ludicrous aspects of the bible when you point them out.
And you are reading into things that are not there. When the Bible said god made man out of dust, that's exactly what it meant, because the Bible was conjured up by primitive humans who didn't understand the universe.
Just read how laughable the 'science' in the Bible is, like the Quran-all of it was taken from the knowledge of their own time.
If god wanted to prove to me that he is real only through his 'holy book', I would've been impressed and more convinced, if it contained Dirac's equation and information about antibiotics many centuries ago.
But of course you'll find none of that, which just proves it's a joke and Christians are morons for following it.
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I should add, Dirac's 'Monumental' Equation because it deserves that accolade, equally if not more important than Einstein's E=mc^2.
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Yeah, good point, but I still appreciate the lessons that the bible teaches. I understand who is was written by but I'm still very much into theology and the metaphysical and my interests in science don't change that =/