Quran 4:24
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess."
backed up by:
Quran 33:50
"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"
What your right hand possesses refers to slaves. This is why I am going to stop talking to you because you're a liar. Quran 4:24 clearly states you can have sex with slaves and sex with slaves is always rape. A slave cannot consent.
You felt the need to take a fragment of the verse. IT would only be right if you present it in its entirety. Otherwise, don't bother using it because your argument is only partial.
Mohammed himself didn't marry the slave Maria al-Qibtiyya yet there was a child and therefore rape. Proving that you are just lying again.
Also forcing a slave to marry you and then raping her is still rape. I can even believe I need to explain this to you. You really are a terrible person to believe that rape is okay just because you forced someone to marry you.
Why do you lie so much?
First and foremost, no one said anything about rape being right.
Rape is wrong. Thanks for making a great example of a straw man fallacy. :p
I'm a terrible person? Ah, gotta love Ad-Hominems.
By the Way, Maria Al- Qibtiyya did marry Prophet Muhammad, (pbuh) You might need to check your sources once more, they're full of holes just like your arguments.
"Maria Al- Qibtiyya did marry Prophet Muhammad, (pbuh)"
Please post your evidence.
Here is mine:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not marry Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah, rather she was a concubine who was given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Egypt. That took place after the treaty of al-Hudaybiyah. Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was a Christian, then she became Muslim (may Allaah be pleased with her).
—Ibn Saad, The Life of Prophet
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) lodged her – meaning Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah and her sister – with Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, and the Messenger of Allaah (S) entered upon them and told them about Islam. He took Mariyah as a concubine and moved her to some property of his in al-‘Awaali… and she became a good Muslim.
—Al-Tabaqaat al-Kubra, 1/134-135
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had four concubines, one of whom was Mariyah.
—Ibn al-Qayyim , biography
Abu ‘Ubaydah said: He had four (concubines): Mariyah, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh.
—Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/114
I did not use any Wikipedia written content but quotes from historical public domain sources that Wikipedia has also used.
It's all well and good to criticize what I am bringing now let's see what evidence you have. Or are you just lying again, I do seem to be catching you in a lot of lies as late, is it a compulsion for you?
"That would get you an F."
Pretty rich from someone who has brought nothing to the table evidence wise.
"Maria Al- Qibtiyya did marry Prophet Muhammad, (pbuh)"
Quit stalling, post your evidence or admit to lying yet again.
Is it normal for people to be so ignorant about Islam?
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Quran 4:24
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess."
backed up by:
Quran 33:50
"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"
What your right hand possesses refers to slaves. This is why I am going to stop talking to you because you're a liar. Quran 4:24 clearly states you can have sex with slaves and sex with slaves is always rape. A slave cannot consent.
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And why don't you continue on that verse. 4:24. please do write the whole verse down, because it sure doesn't end like that.
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Why don't you? Here is a tip if you feel something is important to post, than post it. Gee you are one dim moron to need tips like that.
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You felt the need to take a fragment of the verse. IT would only be right if you present it in its entirety. Otherwise, don't bother using it because your argument is only partial.
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Why don't you? Here is a tip if you feel something is important to post, than post it. Gee you are one dim moron to need tips like that.
Right hand possess are the war captives. Even then, it says you must marry them or pay them a dowry (basically marrying) before you have intercourse.
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Mohammed himself didn't marry the slave Maria al-Qibtiyya yet there was a child and therefore rape. Proving that you are just lying again.
Also forcing a slave to marry you and then raping her is still rape. I can even believe I need to explain this to you. You really are a terrible person to believe that rape is okay just because you forced someone to marry you.
Why do you lie so much?
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First and foremost, no one said anything about rape being right.
Rape is wrong. Thanks for making a great example of a straw man fallacy. :p
I'm a terrible person? Ah, gotta love Ad-Hominems.
By the Way, Maria Al- Qibtiyya did marry Prophet Muhammad, (pbuh) You might need to check your sources once more, they're full of holes just like your arguments.
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"Maria Al- Qibtiyya did marry Prophet Muhammad, (pbuh)"
Please post your evidence.
Here is mine:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not marry Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah, rather she was a concubine who was given to him by al-Muqawqis, the ruler of Egypt. That took place after the treaty of al-Hudaybiyah. Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah was a Christian, then she became Muslim (may Allaah be pleased with her).
—Ibn Saad, The Life of Prophet
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) lodged her – meaning Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah and her sister – with Umm Sulaym bint Milhaan, and the Messenger of Allaah (S) entered upon them and told them about Islam. He took Mariyah as a concubine and moved her to some property of his in al-‘Awaali… and she became a good Muslim.
—Al-Tabaqaat al-Kubra, 1/134-135
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had four concubines, one of whom was Mariyah.
—Ibn al-Qayyim , biography
Abu ‘Ubaydah said: He had four (concubines): Mariyah, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh.
—Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/114
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Way to use and plagiarize Wikipedia. (Which anyone can write anything on) Very credible my friend. ;p
And you didn't even reference it...
That would get you an F.
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I did not use any Wikipedia written content but quotes from historical public domain sources that Wikipedia has also used.
It's all well and good to criticize what I am bringing now let's see what evidence you have. Or are you just lying again, I do seem to be catching you in a lot of lies as late, is it a compulsion for you?
"That would get you an F."
Pretty rich from someone who has brought nothing to the table evidence wise.
"Maria Al- Qibtiyya did marry Prophet Muhammad, (pbuh)"
Quit stalling, post your evidence or admit to lying yet again.