ComboBreaker said:
"We just rule out theorys with what we know to be scientific fact so far. Yes things will change, but until then, we have to go by what we know."
Yes, I agree ... but when you reject an idea based on a current scientfic fact, that rejection is fundamentally flawed as the very concept of a scientific fact is a fallacy; as you've already admitted: "Yes things will change, but until then, we have to go by what we know." Is there such a thing as a 'temporary fact'? I be thinky not not!
So .. my point pertaining to your quote is this: It's fair game to reason theories based on the cutting edge of the understanding of things but in the assumption that those understandings; however reasonable are ultimate facts, there is the problem of imposed creative boundaries. It's ok if you're a researcher who's allowing for possibilities but if you're like most atheists, who simply believe in the facts which contemporary science dictates to them, then you're creating a self imposed limit on creative thinking. Ask an Atheist to just suppose that there could be a God.. without proof.. without reason.. to just simply accept it as possible. Ask him that and he'll just quote science at you and call you a lunatic.
..Which is fair enough, i'm not saying there's anything wrong in it.
ComboBreaker said:
"The day a scientist prooves something wrong, no matter what, it's a good day. Because, "now" we know."
And
"An Atheist is NOT told what to belive"
Hmm, are you sure?
ComboBreaker said:
"Scientific method. We all go by it, because it's the best we have so far."
As you already said, things do not need to be prooved in order to exist. So not entertaining the possibilty of things which are fantastic/supenatural etc etc, simply because of lack of proof again strengthens my argument that an Atheist view is limited.
"Ask an Atheist to just suppose that there could be a God.. without proof.. without reason.. to just simply accept it as possible. Ask him that and he'll just quote science at you and call you a lunatic."
True. Many Atheists will do so, sadly. Not even realiseing that the God theory is still a valid theory. Then why are they Atheists? you may ask... Because we simply don't belive there is a God (Not a paranormal one anyway). This is why I say Atheists are not told what to think. Yet there may be thoughs out there who think they can tell Atheists what to think. Any Atheist reading this? You are not told what to think. Atheism is a tag.
"..Which is fair enough, i'm not saying there's anything wrong in it."
Hahaha Realy? I see loads wrong with it!
""The day a scientist prooves something wrong, no matter what, it's a good day. Because, "now" we know."
And
"An Atheist is NOT told what to belive"
Hmm, are you sure?"
Yes... I am sure.
With a scientist (a good one, not necercerily an Atheist) He/she enjoys not knowing. Because with not knowing, leaves room for us to wonder, ponder and imagin the posabilitys. Lets us discover and learn and build theorys for us to decode. Gets me excited just thinking about it!
"As you already said, things do not need to be prooved in order to exist. So not entertaining the possibilty of things which are fantastic/supenatural etc etc, simply because of lack of proof again strengthens my argument that an Atheist view is limited."
I supose... But in my opinion, anything is posible. I denie the paranormal because I belive that science can decode and explain everything. We just have to figure out how.
The Atheist that has a limited view, is from his/her upbringing. It is the person with limited veiw, not the tag we give them.
If I have ever given the impresion that I think less of someone based on their opinion, I am terribly sorry. Maby I was drunk or high that day... Mostly drunk, I'm more open minded when high. Sorry again if I have done so.
Is it normal for atheists to always act so conceited?
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ComboBreaker said:
"We just rule out theorys with what we know to be scientific fact so far. Yes things will change, but until then, we have to go by what we know."
Yes, I agree ... but when you reject an idea based on a current scientfic fact, that rejection is fundamentally flawed as the very concept of a scientific fact is a fallacy; as you've already admitted: "Yes things will change, but until then, we have to go by what we know." Is there such a thing as a 'temporary fact'? I be thinky not not!
So .. my point pertaining to your quote is this: It's fair game to reason theories based on the cutting edge of the understanding of things but in the assumption that those understandings; however reasonable are ultimate facts, there is the problem of imposed creative boundaries. It's ok if you're a researcher who's allowing for possibilities but if you're like most atheists, who simply believe in the facts which contemporary science dictates to them, then you're creating a self imposed limit on creative thinking. Ask an Atheist to just suppose that there could be a God.. without proof.. without reason.. to just simply accept it as possible. Ask him that and he'll just quote science at you and call you a lunatic.
..Which is fair enough, i'm not saying there's anything wrong in it.
ComboBreaker said:
"The day a scientist prooves something wrong, no matter what, it's a good day. Because, "now" we know."
And
"An Atheist is NOT told what to belive"
Hmm, are you sure?
ComboBreaker said:
"Scientific method. We all go by it, because it's the best we have so far."
As you already said, things do not need to be prooved in order to exist. So not entertaining the possibilty of things which are fantastic/supenatural etc etc, simply because of lack of proof again strengthens my argument that an Atheist view is limited.
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"Ask an Atheist to just suppose that there could be a God.. without proof.. without reason.. to just simply accept it as possible. Ask him that and he'll just quote science at you and call you a lunatic."
True. Many Atheists will do so, sadly. Not even realiseing that the God theory is still a valid theory. Then why are they Atheists? you may ask... Because we simply don't belive there is a God (Not a paranormal one anyway). This is why I say Atheists are not told what to think. Yet there may be thoughs out there who think they can tell Atheists what to think. Any Atheist reading this? You are not told what to think. Atheism is a tag.
"..Which is fair enough, i'm not saying there's anything wrong in it."
Hahaha Realy? I see loads wrong with it!
""The day a scientist prooves something wrong, no matter what, it's a good day. Because, "now" we know."
And
"An Atheist is NOT told what to belive"
Hmm, are you sure?"
Yes... I am sure.
With a scientist (a good one, not necercerily an Atheist) He/she enjoys not knowing. Because with not knowing, leaves room for us to wonder, ponder and imagin the posabilitys. Lets us discover and learn and build theorys for us to decode. Gets me excited just thinking about it!
"As you already said, things do not need to be prooved in order to exist. So not entertaining the possibilty of things which are fantastic/supenatural etc etc, simply because of lack of proof again strengthens my argument that an Atheist view is limited."
I supose... But in my opinion, anything is posible. I denie the paranormal because I belive that science can decode and explain everything. We just have to figure out how.
The Atheist that has a limited view, is from his/her upbringing. It is the person with limited veiw, not the tag we give them.
If I have ever given the impresion that I think less of someone based on their opinion, I am terribly sorry. Maby I was drunk or high that day... Mostly drunk, I'm more open minded when high. Sorry again if I have done so.