Apparently you've never worked retail for minimum wage. Everybody is happy to get the job until they do it. It's hard work for $9.00 an hour; $6 after taxes.
What makes you think that everyone in a grocery store has no education? Half the people there are either working for a degree or they already have one. Myself included.
I don't know what America you remember. Here, in 2015, in Los Angeles, earning minimum wage means you qualify for food stamps. So, no, working in the hot sun or in rain is not worth still needing government aid.
Maybe he worked in the mine shafts of Bolivia when the Spanish conquistadors colonized South America? So, stop complaining, you're lazy. He's like okay with all that because you're better off. By golly, don't whip out an iPhone, he'll assume you're rich and lazy. I doubt it. I've seen the data. You're not kidding about the earnings stagnation across the USA.
There is an exception. There's a huge oil fracking boom going on in North Dakota. That place is in the midst of an economic growth surge.
Living costs in CA = expensive for anyone. I've seen the real estate prices.
You know, attitudes like yours about your work really piss me off. You knew what the job was before you took it or else you are an idiot for not finding out. Therefore, you accepted the position, thereby agreeing to do the work.
If you can't survive on what you are being paid, once again a given fact BEFORE you accepted the job, then perhaps you should learn to live within your means, rather than spending more than you know you will make.
Nobody's going to give me a handout if I want to spend more than my income, why should YOU receive one?
I don't see how me pissing you off is relevant to the discussion . . . I Kind of feel like taking a bow.
Anyway, the job description did not include: tolerating condescending customers, constantly being blamed for things that aren't your fault, being berated by horrible customer for doing your job properly, helping capable but lazy customers who only ask for help because they know it bothers you, acknowledging that all your werk is exists because people are lazy, attaining an overall, lingering dissatisfaction with the status quo of human interpersonal communication. Is that worth $6 (net) an hour? I think not.
Six dollars an hour at 30 hours a week gets you $180. That's $720 in four weeks. A typical studio apartment here in Los Angeles is about $550 a month. A single is about $800. My two bed room is $1200 but I only pay half. I only have about $20 a week of disposable income. I'm sorry but dealing with all the shit noted above is not worth having $20 more than mere survival.
What, you've never, ever been in a retail establishment before? You've never in your life seen how people treat the employees? Nope, I don't buy it; you are just making up bullshit lies now. If you didn't have the intelligence to make sure you understood exactly what you would have to do and put up with when you took the job, then that is YOUR error and no one elses.
If you couldn't live on the wages, well, whose fault is that? Perhaps you should have found a cheaper place to live or more roommates.
But, you know what? "Is that worth $6 (net) an hour? I think not." THEN FUCKING QUIT and go find another job. Just stop bitching and moaning like a child!
Old man is a tad bit jealous of your youth, Armus. He's crabbity. I hope your ignoring his idiocy.
Hey, work ethic is great. But, Gypsy, you're off the deep end. You haven't brought forth any quality evidence for anything you said.
Armor just delivered you some numbers. You want Armus to quit? Genius, I think you've not been in the formal economy for some time, I take it. If Armus quits, he's technically unemployed, that would not be in his favor in this economic climate. Quitting would create a gap in employment which is a red flag you don't want on the resume. One must have a job these days to get one. That's how human resources works with the applications process unless Armus bypasses all of this. Lots of people don't know how to do that. They just need money to pay for life expenses which is understandable.
Your advice is not helping Armus at all. More roommates? Cheaper place? What next? Walk 100 miles in the desert like you did?
LOL, what next? This poor guy is part of the entitled generation? "Attitudes like yours"? I didn't see an attitude. He threw quality suggestions.
"If you can't survive". Yes, continue promoting sink or swim here. Can you swim? How about I add some sharks to the water to raise the stakes? How will you perform? I'm raising this question as a thought, not to elicit an answer.
Handouts? Hmmm, corporations net pretty generous handouts to pay each other big bonuses. You're not playing your cards right. I'm sure there's a subsidy you haven't tried to receive.
Live within your means? Tell that to the Federal Gov't who operates this country's economy on a continuous debt cycle. That's really how it works. Its normal. It shouldn't be, but it is.
Is it normal for Americans to leave shopping carts all over the place?
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Apparently you've never worked retail for minimum wage. Everybody is happy to get the job until they do it. It's hard work for $9.00 an hour; $6 after taxes.
What makes you think that everyone in a grocery store has no education? Half the people there are either working for a degree or they already have one. Myself included.
I don't know what America you remember. Here, in 2015, in Los Angeles, earning minimum wage means you qualify for food stamps. So, no, working in the hot sun or in rain is not worth still needing government aid.
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Maybe he worked in the mine shafts of Bolivia when the Spanish conquistadors colonized South America? So, stop complaining, you're lazy. He's like okay with all that because you're better off. By golly, don't whip out an iPhone, he'll assume you're rich and lazy. I doubt it. I've seen the data. You're not kidding about the earnings stagnation across the USA.
There is an exception. There's a huge oil fracking boom going on in North Dakota. That place is in the midst of an economic growth surge.
Living costs in CA = expensive for anyone. I've seen the real estate prices.
You know, attitudes like yours about your work really piss me off. You knew what the job was before you took it or else you are an idiot for not finding out. Therefore, you accepted the position, thereby agreeing to do the work.
If you can't survive on what you are being paid, once again a given fact BEFORE you accepted the job, then perhaps you should learn to live within your means, rather than spending more than you know you will make.
Nobody's going to give me a handout if I want to spend more than my income, why should YOU receive one?
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I don't see how me pissing you off is relevant to the discussion . . . I Kind of feel like taking a bow.
Anyway, the job description did not include: tolerating condescending customers, constantly being blamed for things that aren't your fault, being berated by horrible customer for doing your job properly, helping capable but lazy customers who only ask for help because they know it bothers you, acknowledging that all your werk is exists because people are lazy, attaining an overall, lingering dissatisfaction with the status quo of human interpersonal communication. Is that worth $6 (net) an hour? I think not.
Six dollars an hour at 30 hours a week gets you $180. That's $720 in four weeks. A typical studio apartment here in Los Angeles is about $550 a month. A single is about $800. My two bed room is $1200 but I only pay half. I only have about $20 a week of disposable income. I'm sorry but dealing with all the shit noted above is not worth having $20 more than mere survival.
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What, you've never, ever been in a retail establishment before? You've never in your life seen how people treat the employees? Nope, I don't buy it; you are just making up bullshit lies now. If you didn't have the intelligence to make sure you understood exactly what you would have to do and put up with when you took the job, then that is YOUR error and no one elses.
If you couldn't live on the wages, well, whose fault is that? Perhaps you should have found a cheaper place to live or more roommates.
But, you know what? "Is that worth $6 (net) an hour? I think not." THEN FUCKING QUIT and go find another job. Just stop bitching and moaning like a child!
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Old man is a tad bit jealous of your youth, Armus. He's crabbity. I hope your ignoring his idiocy.
Hey, work ethic is great. But, Gypsy, you're off the deep end. You haven't brought forth any quality evidence for anything you said.
Armor just delivered you some numbers. You want Armus to quit? Genius, I think you've not been in the formal economy for some time, I take it. If Armus quits, he's technically unemployed, that would not be in his favor in this economic climate. Quitting would create a gap in employment which is a red flag you don't want on the resume. One must have a job these days to get one. That's how human resources works with the applications process unless Armus bypasses all of this. Lots of people don't know how to do that. They just need money to pay for life expenses which is understandable.
Your advice is not helping Armus at all. More roommates? Cheaper place? What next? Walk 100 miles in the desert like you did?
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Rather than quit the little crybaby can just stop bitching and moaning and do the job he was hired to do, right? Solves all the problems.
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Gypsy, would you prefer duct tape, like they did in the good old days?
LOL, what next? This poor guy is part of the entitled generation? "Attitudes like yours"? I didn't see an attitude. He threw quality suggestions.
"If you can't survive". Yes, continue promoting sink or swim here. Can you swim? How about I add some sharks to the water to raise the stakes? How will you perform? I'm raising this question as a thought, not to elicit an answer.
Handouts? Hmmm, corporations net pretty generous handouts to pay each other big bonuses. You're not playing your cards right. I'm sure there's a subsidy you haven't tried to receive.
Live within your means? Tell that to the Federal Gov't who operates this country's economy on a continuous debt cycle. That's really how it works. Its normal. It shouldn't be, but it is.