You are stating something that is untrue. People are upheld to these standards often you just might not realize it. It does not change the fact it is there and it does happen.
For the love of God you didn’t read my comments very thoroughly. It’s clear to me now, thank you, and now I have to spell it out for you. Well, here you go. Some direct quotes and what they mean because you’re obviously not getting it.
My side of this debate was to show you that you can’t judge a book by its cover. You keep generalizing the women who dress up by calling most of them prissy. In turn, I told you that “I've met women who are more down to earth, and kind that dress up that would normally be viewed as a 'prissy' women. The same applies to tomboys as well. I've met good and bad women in both of the categories you mentioned. I've actually met a materialistic superficial women who was a tomboy and enjoyed video games and sports.” So there you go. That’s that part of the argument. THE PART WHERE I DISAGREED WITH YOU since it was an overgeneralization. Next I told you why there are other reasons why a girl dresses up besides wanting to supposedly show of her body like you mentioned.
This is the part that you keep arguing about even though we agree on it.
AND I QUOTE: “They do it to make themselves feel better OR they're trying to keep up with what the media portrays as 'beauty', however, I could probably write a novel about that alone.” I was hoping you would get from this quote that I agree that society makes women force themselves to dress a certain way. However, what you APPARENTLY DIDN’T GET FROM THIS PART IS THAT it means they either do it for themselves or …OR the media is making them, HOWEVER, I was also telling you that some women do it to MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER. Some women are not forced to dress this way, but have self-esteem issues.
I don’t believe I’m blind to rules and social standards, but I do believe you need a good pair of reading glasses. For the part about the men, I agree both men and women are forced to dress a certain way, especially if they want to keep up with those standards, but we weren’t talking about men. We were talking about women.
And I already talked about this question of yours of… “Though I really do not understand why males or females would want to wear something so useless”… in my first argument. And if you wish for me to repeat that quote… well, I’ll do it anyways. “They do it to make themselves feel better OR they're trying to keep up with what the media portrays as 'beauty', however, I could probably write a novel about that alone.”
For your last question on “So why are we pushing people into wearing this kind of stuff?” Well, for that I don’t know. No one knows (at least to my knowledge), but it just started one day and all of a sudden more and more people got this idea that they should dress up since the other people are dressing up and now it’s just a social standard. If it was up to me (and this opinion should be really obvious by now, but I guess not) everyone can dress up how they want to because “it’s their decision on whether or not they want to dress up. I’m not going to force people to dress a certain way.”
There you go – part one on my latest novel.
My side of this debate was to show you that you can’t judge a book by its cover. <=== ALREADY SAID THIS MYSELF SEVERAL TIMES. So quit preaching to the Choir. That does no good.
I told you that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover from the beginning, actually I said that in my first reply to you, since you were overgeneralizing. It was you who kept insisting that "I wasn't getting it" time and time again.
is it normal for a girl to buy a guy shirt?
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I'm curious, do you even read my comments? It seems like you don't by what you're saying.
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You are stating something that is untrue. People are upheld to these standards often you just might not realize it. It does not change the fact it is there and it does happen.
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For the love of God you didn’t read my comments very thoroughly. It’s clear to me now, thank you, and now I have to spell it out for you. Well, here you go. Some direct quotes and what they mean because you’re obviously not getting it.
My side of this debate was to show you that you can’t judge a book by its cover. You keep generalizing the women who dress up by calling most of them prissy. In turn, I told you that “I've met women who are more down to earth, and kind that dress up that would normally be viewed as a 'prissy' women. The same applies to tomboys as well. I've met good and bad women in both of the categories you mentioned. I've actually met a materialistic superficial women who was a tomboy and enjoyed video games and sports.” So there you go. That’s that part of the argument. THE PART WHERE I DISAGREED WITH YOU since it was an overgeneralization. Next I told you why there are other reasons why a girl dresses up besides wanting to supposedly show of her body like you mentioned.
This is the part that you keep arguing about even though we agree on it.
AND I QUOTE: “They do it to make themselves feel better OR they're trying to keep up with what the media portrays as 'beauty', however, I could probably write a novel about that alone.” I was hoping you would get from this quote that I agree that society makes women force themselves to dress a certain way. However, what you APPARENTLY DIDN’T GET FROM THIS PART IS THAT it means they either do it for themselves or …OR the media is making them, HOWEVER, I was also telling you that some women do it to MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER. Some women are not forced to dress this way, but have self-esteem issues.
I don’t believe I’m blind to rules and social standards, but I do believe you need a good pair of reading glasses. For the part about the men, I agree both men and women are forced to dress a certain way, especially if they want to keep up with those standards, but we weren’t talking about men. We were talking about women.
And I already talked about this question of yours of… “Though I really do not understand why males or females would want to wear something so useless”… in my first argument. And if you wish for me to repeat that quote… well, I’ll do it anyways. “They do it to make themselves feel better OR they're trying to keep up with what the media portrays as 'beauty', however, I could probably write a novel about that alone.”
For your last question on “So why are we pushing people into wearing this kind of stuff?” Well, for that I don’t know. No one knows (at least to my knowledge), but it just started one day and all of a sudden more and more people got this idea that they should dress up since the other people are dressing up and now it’s just a social standard. If it was up to me (and this opinion should be really obvious by now, but I guess not) everyone can dress up how they want to because “it’s their decision on whether or not they want to dress up. I’m not going to force people to dress a certain way.”
There you go – part one on my latest novel.
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My side of this debate was to show you that you can’t judge a book by its cover. <=== ALREADY SAID THIS MYSELF SEVERAL TIMES. So quit preaching to the Choir. That does no good.
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I told you that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover from the beginning, actually I said that in my first reply to you, since you were overgeneralizing. It was you who kept insisting that "I wasn't getting it" time and time again.