Wow, you've just missed the whole point ENTIRELY (perhaps because you just didn't WANT to see it).
I just think it's kinda weird and hypocritical for Christians to demand respect for their beliefs, when those beliefs are OBVIOUSLY not respectful of a lot of people from whom they demand said respect.
"You consider their beliefs vile and they consider your beliefs vile"
Yes, but I don't believe Christians deserve (and will) be tortured forever, whilst they DO believe that the other way around. So, who's the nicer person here?
"By the way, you do realize that most religions proclaim that non-believers will go to something like a hell, right?"
Yes, sure I know that. I don't agree with those religions either. I think being a good person is just a TEENSY bit more important than what you believe. Too bad the vast majority of religions don't teach that.
Why don't you ask the mother of the young male, who is currently being hunted by the 'polite', why she is using an archaic term, which means, 'wholly war' or 'all war'?
Is this what you want for the future of Planet Earth? All war?
While you're at it, you can ask her about the "religious politics", meaning -ists and -isms.
I guess you'd get all wound up if I told you to turn the other cheek, wouldn't you?
Yes, I got your point. It's obnoxious to expect that others will respect your belief that they are hell-bound heathens. I agree with that part.
You aren't obligated to respect others' religious faith no matter what it is. However, that isn't what you asked. You asked if it was normal for people who believe a certain way to want respect for their beliefs, and that answer is always going to be yes. Of course it's normal that they "whine" about respect; everyone wants to have his or her core beliefs treated with respect -- even if those beliefs are distasteful.
Believe me, I don't love the fundamentalist Christians. One of them told me my sister was burning in hell because she didn't accept JC as her personal blah blah blah before she died in an accident. I was 13 at the time. It put me off that poison pretty much for life. Not every Christian is like that evil fuck, though. Like every other group, they range from wonderful people to utter bastards.
The good ones don't believe you're going to hell; they believe you just haven't found heaven yet and will pray for you to find it. To me, it's daft, but it's well-intentioned. How can I hate all Christians when some are good, kind people?
"I guess you'd get all wound up if I told you to turn the other cheek, wouldn't you?"
Why would I? Turning the other cheek is bad advice, BTW. Taking away the right of self-defense is idiotic.
"You asked if it was normal for people who believe a certain way to want respect for their beliefs, and that answer is always going to be yes. Of course it's normal that they "whine" about respect; everyone wants to have his or her core beliefs treated with respect -- even if those beliefs are distasteful."
I indeed asked if it is normal for people who believe a certain way to want respect for their beliefs. You're also right that the answer to that is always gonna be yes. However, I think people with beliefs they KNOW are distasteful to others, should realize it's unreasonable to be asking those very same people for respect. I mean, hello?
I'm truly sorry your sister died, and I do not for one second believe she is burning in hell. That was a disgusting statement from that Christian piece of shit. I DO know there are also a lot of nice Christians who DON'T believe that. I don't hate those, because they indeed are good people.
However, they are also hypocrites, because, although the Bible is very contradictory about hell (as it is on HUNDREDS of other topics), the view that non-believers will suffer forever in hell REALLY IS dominant.
My beliefs aren't disrespectful in THEMSELVES, they are merely a RESPONSE to your Christian belief.
I consider your beliefs vile and you consider my beliefs vile, I get that, but I don't believe Christians deserve (and will) be tortured forever, whilst you DO believe that the other way around. So, who's the nicer person here?
I never said they were disrespectful. I said that they were distasteful. Besides that, your beliefs aren't disrespectful, but the way your shoving them down people's throats like "Christians" do, is disrespectful. And hey, it's your choice to get tortured in hell. You don't have to be tortured if you don't want to be.
"I never said they were disrespectful. I said that they were distasteful."
Just a silly little wordgame.
"Besides that, your beliefs aren't disrespectful, but the way your shoving them down people's throats like "Christians" do, is disrespectful."
Maybe so, but I think I'm perfectly justified in doing so.
"You don't have to be tortured if you don't want to be."
Of course I don't want to be. However, according to the Bible, you must believe certain absurd and immoral things, in that case. I believe they call that blackmail.
Is it normal Christians whine about respect?
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Wow, you've just missed the whole point ENTIRELY (perhaps because you just didn't WANT to see it).
I just think it's kinda weird and hypocritical for Christians to demand respect for their beliefs, when those beliefs are OBVIOUSLY not respectful of a lot of people from whom they demand said respect.
"You consider their beliefs vile and they consider your beliefs vile"
Yes, but I don't believe Christians deserve (and will) be tortured forever, whilst they DO believe that the other way around. So, who's the nicer person here?
"By the way, you do realize that most religions proclaim that non-believers will go to something like a hell, right?"
Yes, sure I know that. I don't agree with those religions either. I think being a good person is just a TEENSY bit more important than what you believe. Too bad the vast majority of religions don't teach that.
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If you are basing your feelings about Christians on their belief that hell lasts forever,, please note that not all Christians believe this.
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You are correct. The Bible is very contradictory on the subject of Hell (as it is on loads of other subjects BTW).
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/interp/hell.html
I guess Christians don't even know what to believe, LOL.
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The view that non-Christians will suffer eternally really IS dominant in the Bible, though.
Two divisions, Archaic.
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I like the word archaic. I'm going to start using it in my conversations with others: )
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Why don't you ask the mother of the young male, who is currently being hunted by the 'polite', why she is using an archaic term, which means, 'wholly war' or 'all war'?
Is this what you want for the future of Planet Earth? All war?
While you're at it, you can ask her about the "religious politics", meaning -ists and -isms.
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No thanks, I'll pass. You can ask her if you like.
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Quick to be Archaic, but slow to stop them.
I guess you'd get all wound up if I told you to turn the other cheek, wouldn't you?
Yes, I got your point. It's obnoxious to expect that others will respect your belief that they are hell-bound heathens. I agree with that part.
You aren't obligated to respect others' religious faith no matter what it is. However, that isn't what you asked. You asked if it was normal for people who believe a certain way to want respect for their beliefs, and that answer is always going to be yes. Of course it's normal that they "whine" about respect; everyone wants to have his or her core beliefs treated with respect -- even if those beliefs are distasteful.
Believe me, I don't love the fundamentalist Christians. One of them told me my sister was burning in hell because she didn't accept JC as her personal blah blah blah before she died in an accident. I was 13 at the time. It put me off that poison pretty much for life. Not every Christian is like that evil fuck, though. Like every other group, they range from wonderful people to utter bastards.
The good ones don't believe you're going to hell; they believe you just haven't found heaven yet and will pray for you to find it. To me, it's daft, but it's well-intentioned. How can I hate all Christians when some are good, kind people?
Live and let live. Give respect and get respect.
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"I guess you'd get all wound up if I told you to turn the other cheek, wouldn't you?"
Why would I? Turning the other cheek is bad advice, BTW. Taking away the right of self-defense is idiotic.
"You asked if it was normal for people who believe a certain way to want respect for their beliefs, and that answer is always going to be yes. Of course it's normal that they "whine" about respect; everyone wants to have his or her core beliefs treated with respect -- even if those beliefs are distasteful."
I indeed asked if it is normal for people who believe a certain way to want respect for their beliefs. You're also right that the answer to that is always gonna be yes. However, I think people with beliefs they KNOW are distasteful to others, should realize it's unreasonable to be asking those very same people for respect. I mean, hello?
I'm truly sorry your sister died, and I do not for one second believe she is burning in hell. That was a disgusting statement from that Christian piece of shit. I DO know there are also a lot of nice Christians who DON'T believe that. I don't hate those, because they indeed are good people.
However, they are also hypocrites, because, although the Bible is very contradictory about hell (as it is on HUNDREDS of other topics), the view that non-believers will suffer forever in hell REALLY IS dominant.
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Oh, so you believe you shouldn't have respect? Because your beliefs are distasteful to me.
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My beliefs aren't disrespectful in THEMSELVES, they are merely a RESPONSE to your Christian belief.
I consider your beliefs vile and you consider my beliefs vile, I get that, but I don't believe Christians deserve (and will) be tortured forever, whilst you DO believe that the other way around. So, who's the nicer person here?
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I never said they were disrespectful. I said that they were distasteful. Besides that, your beliefs aren't disrespectful, but the way your shoving them down people's throats like "Christians" do, is disrespectful. And hey, it's your choice to get tortured in hell. You don't have to be tortured if you don't want to be.
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"I never said they were disrespectful. I said that they were distasteful."
Just a silly little wordgame.
"Besides that, your beliefs aren't disrespectful, but the way your shoving them down people's throats like "Christians" do, is disrespectful."
Maybe so, but I think I'm perfectly justified in doing so.
"You don't have to be tortured if you don't want to be."
Of course I don't want to be. However, according to the Bible, you must believe certain absurd and immoral things, in that case. I believe they call that blackmail.
Irresponsible. Please see my other comments on this post.
Hmmm, BEING right certainly is something completely different from being ACKNOWLEGED as such.
Two divisions in society. Please see my comment below.