If you're talking about perhaps saying "Wendi and I" or "Steve and me" it depends on the context.
The *easiest* way to decide which to use is to simply remove the other person from the sentence.
i.e. Let's take "Wendi and I" and going to the store.
Wendi and I went to the store. ... Remove Wendi and ... and it becomes "I went to the store. Therefore that's OK.
But let's try Steve.
Steve and me went to the store. Remove Steve and it becomes "Me went to the store." Unless you're Cookie Monster that just sounds horrible.
But let's say... Cookie monster gives you and and your friend some cookies.
Cookie monster gave Wendi and I some cookies.
Remove Wendi and it becomes "Cookie monster gave I some cookies." That sounds bad.
However if you try it with "Steve and me"...
Cookie Monster gave Steve and me some cookies.
Remove Steve and it becomes "Cookie monster gave me some cookies." That sounds good.
Personally I never gave one crap about "object" of the sentence or any rules like that... I simply learned the rules by ear. I can tell if it sounds right or wrong. That's good enough for me. ;)
Yes they taught the rule in school. I just personally found the memorization of some of the rules to be rather boring and tedious. I never cared one iota about what the "object" of a sentence is. I never will care either.
What you see in me is something different. Instead of memorization of lists of rules, I simply learned how proper English is structured from my Mother and from my voracious reading habits. Mom always made a point of correcting my sister and me when we said things like "more better" or when we asked "can I do this?" I, in turn have also corrected my mother back on the "can" vs "may" statements too. :-)
So... yes, I don't really know some of the minute details with "objects" etc but I can tell you if a sentence "sounds" proper.
Is it just Americans?
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If you're talking about perhaps saying "Wendi and I" or "Steve and me" it depends on the context.
The *easiest* way to decide which to use is to simply remove the other person from the sentence.
i.e. Let's take "Wendi and I" and going to the store.
Wendi and I went to the store. ... Remove Wendi and ... and it becomes "I went to the store. Therefore that's OK.
But let's try Steve.
Steve and me went to the store. Remove Steve and it becomes "Me went to the store." Unless you're Cookie Monster that just sounds horrible.
But let's say... Cookie monster gives you and and your friend some cookies.
Cookie monster gave Wendi and I some cookies.
Remove Wendi and it becomes "Cookie monster gave I some cookies." That sounds bad.
However if you try it with "Steve and me"...
Cookie Monster gave Steve and me some cookies.
Remove Steve and it becomes "Cookie monster gave me some cookies." That sounds good.
Personally I never gave one crap about "object" of the sentence or any rules like that... I simply learned the rules by ear. I can tell if it sounds right or wrong. That's good enough for me. ;)
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We know when it sounds right because we know the rules. I thought everyone was taught the rules you've spelt out for them above!!
Do they not teach this simple rule at all schools in America?
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Yes they taught the rule in school. I just personally found the memorization of some of the rules to be rather boring and tedious. I never cared one iota about what the "object" of a sentence is. I never will care either.
What you see in me is something different. Instead of memorization of lists of rules, I simply learned how proper English is structured from my Mother and from my voracious reading habits. Mom always made a point of correcting my sister and me when we said things like "more better" or when we asked "can I do this?" I, in turn have also corrected my mother back on the "can" vs "may" statements too. :-)
So... yes, I don't really know some of the minute details with "objects" etc but I can tell you if a sentence "sounds" proper.