I don't understand the big TG debate going on in America. Other countries seem to have just accepted it and moved on.
Why are people even thinking that much about someone else's genitals and hormones?
It's such a tiny minority of people who already have difficult lives, just leave them be and let them dress how they want and change their name. It's of no importance to anyone else.
It is of importance because a tiny minority can affect the entire population. A tiny minority can overthrown an entire government, history is full of such examples. Trump is right in removing their rights. Such manifestations of mental illness should not be allowed in public. I can't wait to see one TG who is mentally healthy, not dysfunctional and not screaming at the sky and cursing Drrrrumpf for everything in his life.
Transgender people aren't going to overthrow the government. That's silly. It's been blown way out of proportion. You're talking about a tiny minority of people.
I actually agree with you in principle, people can't change gender, there are only two genders and I don't think there's such thing as being born in the wrong body. There is no other instance where we would tell people that hating something about their body is ok and that cosmetic surgery is the answer. And I draw the line at children being subjected to it - that's abuse. This is an adult issue and children should be protected from it.
However... And this is the crux of it for me... Who cares? Those few people believe all this stuff and they've been through a lot. If changing that letter on their passport from M to F is such a huge deal to them then just let them do it. They are living as that gender anyway by that point. With all the more important issues that we face today I don't think this needs to be such a big deal. It's not as if they let people do it willy nilly, a long process has to be undergone before that can happen. It's not affecting other people anywhere near as much as the media is saying it is.
That's just my two cents though, and I'm quite a passive person when it comes to these sorts of issues. My husband seems to align more with your way of thinking here. You're certainly under no obligation to respect them or recognise their "new" gender if you don't want to. I just choose to do so out of common courtesy because I'm polite and I don't really give a fuck.
Transgenders can't overthrown the governmemt, but their propaganda pussifies the society and immigrants replace them easily. They can overthrow the government. Just look at Western Europe. Much empathy leading to grooming gangs and plague. Europe is falling and this retarded LGBT propaganda is partially responsible for it. Change my mind
Wait a minute... Don't tell me...
Louder with Crowder? :)
And no, I won't change your mind, because I already changed mine. Did you see the link I posted? Didn't realise it had gone so far. I don't hear about it much where I live.
Lol we live in a crazy world. My problem is not with individual liberties, it's with the state policies and the implications of such propaganda at a socio-cultural state level. These weaken a state and make it unstable and vulnerable against threats. I am conservative because I understand the catastrophic effects of a country losing its values and culture, not because I have anything with people's choices. On the contrary, I want them protected by the law just in the way we are. When they are abnormal and unusual, just don't push them in public propaganda and don't change the laws in your favour, because that's insane. Personal life is one thing, state politics is another thing.
I can't help but appreciate your honesty and openness to admit changing your perspective when the evidence suggests this.
I don't often change my mind about things. Not to be arrogant but I'm rarely wrong. But when I am I'm honest about it. We all learn things.
I agree with most of your principles, I just tend not to enforce things so strictly because I'm quite passive. I'm also very "big picture" so I'm pretty good at ignoring things that I don't like if it helps keep the peace. That way thinking also gives me the perspective to say that my view is just one person's view, and who the hell am I to tell others what to do.
But that article... Hmmm... Passive and big picture isn't always the most responsible thing to be.
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I don't understand the big TG debate going on in America. Other countries seem to have just accepted it and moved on.
Why are people even thinking that much about someone else's genitals and hormones?
It's such a tiny minority of people who already have difficult lives, just leave them be and let them dress how they want and change their name. It's of no importance to anyone else.
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It is of importance because a tiny minority can affect the entire population. A tiny minority can overthrown an entire government, history is full of such examples. Trump is right in removing their rights. Such manifestations of mental illness should not be allowed in public. I can't wait to see one TG who is mentally healthy, not dysfunctional and not screaming at the sky and cursing Drrrrumpf for everything in his life.
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https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/24/tasmanian-government-resists-push-to-remove-gender-from-birth-certificates
I just read this and I've changed my mind. Fucking hell.
Transgender people aren't going to overthrow the government. That's silly. It's been blown way out of proportion. You're talking about a tiny minority of people.
I actually agree with you in principle, people can't change gender, there are only two genders and I don't think there's such thing as being born in the wrong body. There is no other instance where we would tell people that hating something about their body is ok and that cosmetic surgery is the answer. And I draw the line at children being subjected to it - that's abuse. This is an adult issue and children should be protected from it.
However... And this is the crux of it for me... Who cares? Those few people believe all this stuff and they've been through a lot. If changing that letter on their passport from M to F is such a huge deal to them then just let them do it. They are living as that gender anyway by that point. With all the more important issues that we face today I don't think this needs to be such a big deal. It's not as if they let people do it willy nilly, a long process has to be undergone before that can happen. It's not affecting other people anywhere near as much as the media is saying it is.
That's just my two cents though, and I'm quite a passive person when it comes to these sorts of issues. My husband seems to align more with your way of thinking here. You're certainly under no obligation to respect them or recognise their "new" gender if you don't want to. I just choose to do so out of common courtesy because I'm polite and I don't really give a fuck.
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Transgenders can't overthrown the governmemt, but their propaganda pussifies the society and immigrants replace them easily. They can overthrow the government. Just look at Western Europe. Much empathy leading to grooming gangs and plague. Europe is falling and this retarded LGBT propaganda is partially responsible for it. Change my mind
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Wait a minute... Don't tell me...
Louder with Crowder? :)
And no, I won't change your mind, because I already changed mine. Did you see the link I posted? Didn't realise it had gone so far. I don't hear about it much where I live.
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Lol we live in a crazy world. My problem is not with individual liberties, it's with the state policies and the implications of such propaganda at a socio-cultural state level. These weaken a state and make it unstable and vulnerable against threats. I am conservative because I understand the catastrophic effects of a country losing its values and culture, not because I have anything with people's choices. On the contrary, I want them protected by the law just in the way we are. When they are abnormal and unusual, just don't push them in public propaganda and don't change the laws in your favour, because that's insane. Personal life is one thing, state politics is another thing.
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I don't often change my mind about things. Not to be arrogant but I'm rarely wrong. But when I am I'm honest about it. We all learn things.
I agree with most of your principles, I just tend not to enforce things so strictly because I'm quite passive. I'm also very "big picture" so I'm pretty good at ignoring things that I don't like if it helps keep the peace. That way thinking also gives me the perspective to say that my view is just one person's view, and who the hell am I to tell others what to do.
But that article... Hmmm... Passive and big picture isn't always the most responsible thing to be.