Is homosexuality a choice?

What do you think? Is it a choice or not?

Yes 14
No 40
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  • 1WeirdGuy

    Putting a dick in your mouth is definitely a choice

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    • ...That doesn't sound appealing at all.

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  • Tbh, I kinda think it's just because it's " trendy " to be homosexual nowadays

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  • Anonnet

    I'd go with Redwing on this one. Not a choice, but not born that way, either. Something in the environment leads the brain in that direction, especially during the forming years.

    Frankly, I think the open availability of porn might have something to do with it. "Some people" might turn it into a political issue about "indoctrination" or whatever, but I'm pretty sure it's as simple as kids getting the message that "___ is sexy" and internalizing it. They could see it on the internet, on TV, or it could be a recurring message they encounter while growing up.

    No one really remembers this kind of stuff in their lives or notices when something is happening to them subconsciously, so by the time we hit puberty and adulthood we just say "I've always been like this." (Sexuality popping up before puberty is usually more clearly artificial.)

    Of course, this isn't exclusive to homosexuality, and there's more to our bodies than just what our eyes see. I think it's an important factor, though.

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  • Holzman_67

    There’s just too many gay babies for me to believe it’s a choice

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    • darefu

      What the hell is a gay baby?

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      • Holzman_67

        A gayby

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      • Solarith

        🤣🤣🤣

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  • kikilizzo

    Is being straight a choice?
    Weird question.
    You cant control what you're attracted to. If so everyone regardless of sexuality could easily be attracted to any type of person they wanted, would certainly make life nicer but that's not possible...

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    • ospry

      If you can't control what you're attracted to, then why is there such a strong push from the LGBT community to accept the idea of "fluid sexual orientation"? That concept seems to be in direct opposition to the "I was born this way" defense

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      • Ligeia

        Because speshul straights want to be able to arbitrarily identify as "queer" or whatever else vague label and get brownie points. Or trannies want to force lesbians to take "girldick." They're mystifying what same-sex attraction, and human sexuality and gender in general, to fit in their convoluted identity

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      • kikilizzo

        Sexuality can be fluid. It's especially common for women.
        The point still stands that attraction cant be controlled. Even if one has a fluid sexuality they cant control what kinds of people they are attracted to of either gender.

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        • Ligeia

          Nah, I don't think so. Sexuality is fixed. Even bisexuals don't change sexual orientation - they're always attracted to both male and female, even if the ratio of this attraction fluctuates as their preferences shift.

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  • From what I've heard, prevalence of homosexuality increases with younger siblings who have older siblings of the same gender.

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  • JellyBeanBandit

    If it were a choice, then millions of gay christians would've chosen to be straight. They grew up believing that being gay was a sin and disgusting, so they felt totally ashamed of who they were and thought that God hated them. They would've given anything to be straight. They were even kicked out of their homes for it and a lot of them ended up committing suicide. If it were as simple as choosing to be straight then no one in their situation would've remained gay.

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    • Clunk42

      "If it were a choice, then millions of Christians would have chosen not to sin. They grew up believing that sins were disgusting... If it were as simple as choosing not to sin, then no one in their situation would've sinned."

      Your logic does not follow.

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      • JellyBeanBandit

        I've read over my comment again but I don't see how the logic doesn't follow.

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        • Clunk42

          I'm saying: Christians are told that many things are sin, and they abhor them, but many of them still do them. For example, there are many Christians who masturbate, event though they know its wrong. The same is true with homosexuality; there are still many Christians who have the disposition, even if they know its morally wrong.

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          • JellyBeanBandit

            Well yeah many of them are gay and aren't too bothered by it. But many others do feel a lot of shame over it, because they were taught in their family that it's disgusting and sinful. They would have chosen to be straight if they could, they tried, but failed because it's not possible to choose your sexuality.

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            • Clunk42

              Let us compare this, again, to masturbation. There are many Christians who masturbate and feel really terrible about it, but then end up doing it again anyway. They try to stop, but they fail. "Trying" does not necessarily lead to success, especially when it comes to suppressing sins and sinful desires.

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  • Gambler

    Of course, but that’s not what meant.

    What I was proposing, was that, might not there be a biological determinant at birth, that has little to do with the parents’ genes or with the environment, and is just the way the baby came out at birth?

    I don’t know anything at all about how genetics work so this may sound absurd.

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  • Gambler

    Just because it’s not very heritable, doesn’t automatically mean it’s environmental, no? Meaning that anyone no matter of genes could have a wildcard kid.

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  • Lusty-Argonian

    Gmos perhaps? An abundance of soy in adolescent diet perhaps?

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  • Tommythecaty

    Of course not.

    Sexual orientation is completely hardwired.

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  • capman

    sex is a choice, no matter if you're straight or a homo.

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  • Somenormie

    Kinda yes but in most ways no.

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  • jackstormwater

    It’s usually a mixture of both, as is the case with most preferences.

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  • Cliche1234

    Born as gay is not a choice but going after a big black dick to get fucked is a choice.

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  • Clunk42

    If one views homosexuality as a disposition (as I believe it is), then it is a combination of both.

    A disposition, correctly defined, is a preference towards a certain act over its other possibilities. So, of course, it seems, this applies to homosexuality.

    Now, dispositions can be set or changed in two different ways: one is to be born with them, as, for example, most humans are born disposed towards food and against pain. The other is to place in one's intellect some knowledge that is against the current disposition, as in when one goes from disliking a food to liking it, or when one goes from supporting abortion to being against it.

    In theory, homosexuality is the same way. Some people (though I would bet it to be few of them) are born with the disposition, while others (probably most of them) choose the disposition, just like with all other fetishes, which also boil down to dispositions.

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  • olderdude-xx

    There have been multiple repeated studies that show actual brain differences between "straight" and "homosexual" people (of both sexes). They have now identified these different brain patterns in infants; and are now awaiting to see how they develop as an adult to verify the relationships.

    While they have not identified a specific gene responsible for it - the researches do believe that it is either due to a "regressive" gene or perhaps a somewhat common genetic mutation (compared to other forms of genetic mutations) that is favored by some other genetic factors.

    It's likely going to take another 15 - 25 years of data to get good results from these studies. Then duplication of the studies will take another 20-30 years.

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  • Grunewald

    Sexual attraction itself? People are suggestive and desires can be fostered and trained in different directions over time by repeated consensual exposure as long as it's pleasurable, but not chosen 'in the moment'.

    The genetic propensity towards homosexuality? Not to my knowledge.

    Environmental factors, such as patterns that derive from childhood experiences and affective lack? Not easily.

    What you do with your life, your thoughts, your words and your body and who you get into romantic/sexual situations with? Yes. Absolutely.

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