Oh please!
It has been proven time and time again that the 'white light' experienced by those who have had a near death experience is nothing more than Brain Hypoxia. You can experience this any time you choose, if you wish.
Personally, I choose to believe that there is nothing after death and that's just fine with me. I have had a wonderfully full, exciting and interesting life and I shall not go out regretting anything I DIDN'T do.
The grand adventure is almost over and I had a blast!
"Verily, I say unto thee. Heaven is in another dimension." XXx:Vxx. Of course, this is probably bullshit to manipulate the masses. But to disprove the existence of heaven by negation (that is to say its not the case that is the case). You can't be so narrow fucking minded. You have to show that you have considered all possibilities.
This is why I say that a proof or disproof can never be accomplished. People report leaving their bodies in death experiences. But, how can one say the euphoria of brain hypoxia extends into eternity?
Good points all.
It's just that I would so much like to dissuade those who believe in heaven and those who believe in an afterlife, from doing so at the expense the one and only GUARANTEED life they have been given, here and now.
Well, you were the one who said heaven was sex, drugs and rock n roll. That's obviously earthy and limited by mere mortal minds.
Eh does it matter? The main point is that when put in a near-death experience, humans tend to report a calm, euphoric feeling. I'm not saying it is supernatural. It has been said to be a survival trait. Obviously when humans cross that barrier and report a euphoric experience, a reasonable person can put 2+2 together and accept at the very least the human brain creates a 'heaven'. It also explains how idealistic forms of HEAVENS came about.
The sailor didn't say heaven is sex drugs and rock n roll, he said the opposite. He said heaven would NOT have those things and so it would be a boring place he wouldn't want to spend eternity.
The idea that the brain creates a heaven is nonsensical. One of the factors for death is brain death. A dead brain creates nothing. Even if it did, it is a soft tissue organ that rots quickly, organs are also sometimes incinerated after autopsy, and of course many people are creamated. The point being the brain only exists for a short period of time after death. So even if a dead brain were capable of creating a euphoric afterlife, it would be a very short one.
Yes him saying it is absent of those things and you saying that he "is the one who said heaven was sex drugs and rock and roll" is a big difference. You quoted him as saying the exact opposite of what he actually said.
Again with the sarcasm, I don't understand it. I am not trying to be smart, I was just pointing out that you misunderstood for the purpose of the conversation. You misunderstood him, no big deal, people make mistakes. But when you resort to childish sarcasm rather than just acknowledge your mistake it makes you look like exactly like that, a child.
Why is no one on this site capible of being an adult and acknowledging they made a mistake. It is such a big deal to just say "oh sorry, I misunderstood" and move on? No one will think less of you. I promise they will think more of you than if you use sarcasm to pretend you were right or to dodge the fact that you were wrong. No one respects that.
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Oh please!
It has been proven time and time again that the 'white light' experienced by those who have had a near death experience is nothing more than Brain Hypoxia. You can experience this any time you choose, if you wish.
Personally, I choose to believe that there is nothing after death and that's just fine with me. I have had a wonderfully full, exciting and interesting life and I shall not go out regretting anything I DIDN'T do.
The grand adventure is almost over and I had a blast!
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"Verily, I say unto thee. Heaven is in another dimension." XXx:Vxx. Of course, this is probably bullshit to manipulate the masses. But to disprove the existence of heaven by negation (that is to say its not the case that is the case). You can't be so narrow fucking minded. You have to show that you have considered all possibilities.
This is why I say that a proof or disproof can never be accomplished. People report leaving their bodies in death experiences. But, how can one say the euphoria of brain hypoxia extends into eternity?
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Good points all.
It's just that I would so much like to dissuade those who believe in heaven and those who believe in an afterlife, from doing so at the expense the one and only GUARANTEED life they have been given, here and now.
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I saddens me as well to see all the earnest sincere people being led into obedience. A life without sex, drugs, or rock'n'roll is a life poorly lived.
Well, you were the one who said heaven was sex, drugs and rock n roll. That's obviously earthy and limited by mere mortal minds.
Eh does it matter? The main point is that when put in a near-death experience, humans tend to report a calm, euphoric feeling. I'm not saying it is supernatural. It has been said to be a survival trait. Obviously when humans cross that barrier and report a euphoric experience, a reasonable person can put 2+2 together and accept at the very least the human brain creates a 'heaven'. It also explains how idealistic forms of HEAVENS came about.
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The sailor didn't say heaven is sex drugs and rock n roll, he said the opposite. He said heaven would NOT have those things and so it would be a boring place he wouldn't want to spend eternity.
The idea that the brain creates a heaven is nonsensical. One of the factors for death is brain death. A dead brain creates nothing. Even if it did, it is a soft tissue organ that rots quickly, organs are also sometimes incinerated after autopsy, and of course many people are creamated. The point being the brain only exists for a short period of time after death. So even if a dead brain were capable of creating a euphoric afterlife, it would be a very short one.
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He said it was absent of those things and therefor it sucked. big diff.
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Yes him saying it is absent of those things and you saying that he "is the one who said heaven was sex drugs and rock and roll" is a big difference. You quoted him as saying the exact opposite of what he actually said.
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Oh yeah, totally! Ur so smarht! If only u was here every time I was wrong! It would make such a big difference!
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Again with the sarcasm, I don't understand it. I am not trying to be smart, I was just pointing out that you misunderstood for the purpose of the conversation. You misunderstood him, no big deal, people make mistakes. But when you resort to childish sarcasm rather than just acknowledge your mistake it makes you look like exactly like that, a child.
Why is no one on this site capible of being an adult and acknowledging they made a mistake. It is such a big deal to just say "oh sorry, I misunderstood" and move on? No one will think less of you. I promise they will think more of you than if you use sarcasm to pretend you were right or to dodge the fact that you were wrong. No one respects that.