Is covid19 ever gonna end?

Now that we've had our first confirmed case of someone catching covid19 twice, it seems like there may never be an end to it. Before, it at least looked like we would eventually reach a point where once everyone caught it and got immunity, then there would continue to be fewer and fewer cases. But now that it's confirmed that anyone and maybe everyone will catch it again and again, this will never end. Even the serious illnesses and pandemics of 100+ years ago, Spanish flu, polio, smallpox, even the black plague, many people were killed, but the pandemics eventually ended because with each of those illnesses, you were immune once you caught it and couldn't get them again. Is covid19 worse than all those other illnesses? The other pandemics ended eventually because you could only get those illnesses once. Because you can get covid19 again and again, does that mean that this pandemic is permanent? Like we'll still be wearing masks with people everywhere getting violently ill and dying in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years from now?

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  • When trump got it the media said "scientists say the president has a 4% chance of death" that amazes me that this old ass obese man only has a 4% chance of death and he is supposed to be the vulnerable. This shit is a hype job. I truly believe after the election you're gonna quit hearing about it no matter who wins. Its become political.

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    • On point, Weirdguy, damn on point here. The mortality rate is pathetic. My 80+ year old Nan got it an survived. My step grandad will be put down as a covid statistic... He was in his mid 80s, had suffered from lung cancer, had multiple strokes, and he was on oxygen in his normal life.

      The disease just is not something that warrants the crushing of civil liberties and economic stability which has happened to so many countries.

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  • Yes; but it might be a few years. The 1918 flu - which started in the USA, ran for 3 years around the world. It killed a lot more people than Covid has. In my estimation; likely largely because of the better medical treatment we have now.

    So I expect a similar 3 years. I doubt an effective Vaccine will change much. It takes years to vaccinate a large portion of the population.

    Medicine and hospitals were rather primitive then compared to now. I believe that Listerine was the most common medical antiseptic of the time (and was considered a powerful surgical antiseptic at the time).

    Now the only real use of Listerine is as a mouthwash, which has added some flavoring. It still works as a basic antiseptic - although most people don't know that was its original use.

    Life long and Prosper,

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    • COVID-19 has actually been far deadlier than the Spanish flu was at this point in the pandemic, even with the advances in medical treatment you astutely pointed out, and the complete lack of quarantining in 1918. The numbers are very similar when you account for population growth over the last century, but again, the advances in medical treatment cannot be overstated.

      It was the second wave of the Spanish flu that was so deadly, and we haven’t gotten to that point with COVID-19 yet. The Spanish flu also had a third and fourth wave that were both deadlier than the first. If COVID-19 lasts is around as long as that pandemic was, we may see something similar. Especially if nothing charges re: the people in charge come November.

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      • Do you really think who's president can have any relevance to the covid19 pandemic? They can't do anything more than all the doctors and health experts are trying to do. No one is immune, Trump has it and who knows how sick it's gonna make him over the next couple of weeks

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        • They can’t do anything more than that, but they can sure do a hell of a lot less than that, as we’ve seen from Trump. Half the country believes it’s just the flu and it’s no big deal and it’ll magically go away on its own, because he intentionally lied about how bad it was. Half he country refuse to wear masks or social distance because he intentionally went out of his way to downplay it. Just look at the comments on this post. People like WeirdGuy and Lloyd are going to parrot everything Trump and Fox News tell them, word for word, no matter how hilariously false it is, no matter how easy it is to see that it’s hilariously false. If he had said in public what he said in private - that it was extremely deadly and extremely contagious - and did what the experts said, promote masks and social distancing, his followers would’ve listened. This whole thing would be over, like it is in almost every other country in the world outside of Brazil(notice that the only other country that hasn’t gotten control of the pandemic is the country with the head of state most similar to Trump, that’s not a coincidence). We wouldn’t have people on here pulling numbers like 0.2% death rate out of thin air or people making fact free claims about vote by mail. None of this would be happening if Trump had publicly acknowledged what he knew to be true. Electing Biden and Harris won’t solve everything, so much damage has already been done at this point, but it’ll damn sure help. It’s like when Obama inherited Bush’s collapsed economy, he didn’t fix it overnight but he got the job done as fast as anybody could’ve hoped.

          Yes, it very much matters who the president is. That’s probably the single most relevant thing.

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        • There is a reason that the USA has the highest % of deaths in the world. It's due to the lack of a coordinated government response.

          So, yes; the President can affect the outcome.

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      • Dude, come on. This is just 100% untrue. The Spanish Flu killed 50 million and Corona virus has killed just over a million. I try to stay civil on this site because the people on it are quite nice, but this really pisses me off. You are so completely off with very, very easily verifiable facts that it's contemptible.

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        • Go read my comment again and read the entire thing this time, or at least the first full sentence. Once you read beyond the first 10 words, you’ll see how you reply makes no sense whatsoever.

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          • But it hasn't though. At this stage in the disease, at the stage of mass contraction in the world, With the amount of cases of infection that have taken place, the amount of cases of recovery, the concerted effort to stop it, i.e in all the non-abstract practical measures of the disease, you're just wrong. The only one you have going for you is time which is pretty damn irrelevant. You could use that metric to say similar complete bullshit like, "covid-19 has been far deadlier than bubonic plague at this point".

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            • You know, you could’ve just said “haha my bad, I just read the first 10 words and got so mad I went straight to the reply, you’re absolutely right, I should’ve read the rest, I can’t argue with anything you actually said.” Hell, you could’ve just silently deleted your reply without saying a word and nobody would’ve known.

              The first wave of the Spanish flu killed 75,000 Americans with no masks, no social distancing, no hand washing, no ventilators, no effort to stop it and no ability to treat it. COVID-19 killed 200,000 Americans with all of those things. It’s infected a similar percentage of the population and killed a similar percentage of the population. Of course, thanks to the federal government bungling this thing beyond recognition, it’s not easy to tell where the first wave ended and the second wave is beginning, but it’s easy to see that it’s similar or worse by every single measure. The only thing you have is the raw totals that Spanish flu accumulated over three years, which is completely useless compared to eight months of COVID-19, beyond pointing out what COVID-19 could be on track to do if the current government continues to botch the situation as badly as it has.

              You made a mistake. It happens. Just learn from it and move on, you’re only going to make it worse if you keep doubling down.

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    • Ahh dude, the Spanish Flu was so grim. Right after WW1 as well. Such a bad time for a serious disease like that to hit.

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  • Yeah right from the start people were being confirmed twice it’s nothing new nor does it mean it will never “end” like the seasonal flu

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    • The article said it was first confirmed case. But doesn't matter. You think this might end? I was thinking so when there was talk about vaccines. But nooo, so many nay-sayers want to keep saying how vaccines are going to be useless. I wish I that there was more hope to this.

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      • Its a joke dude only 0.2% of the ppl who test positive die. And this isnt counting the ppl who had it amd didnt get tested. 80% of ppl who get it never have symptoms. When you factor in the people who had it and were never tested that brings the actual death rate under 0.2%

        Ppl talk about how many cases we have but they dont realize thats just because we are testing more. If 100 ppl have covid and 0 of them are tested then thats 0 cases. If you are a politician in europe and you wanna look good what do you do? You test less. Then it looks like you have less cases but you really dont. In many countries you'll notice their covid death rate is higher. Its not actually that its covid 2.0 its because they only test the deathly ill. So since they tested less the times they do test the person is likely to die. This causes their death rate to be higher. This is why our deathrate is much lower than others because we are testing more.

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        • I wonder if there's a chance I may have already had it and was asymptomatic. But no, I doubt it because there are two elderly people who live downstairs from me in my apartment building, and one of them gives me rides alot because I don't have a car. If I'd had it, wouldn't one of them, particularly the elderly neighbor who gives me rides, have caught it from me and have gotten really sick? I'd like to think that I've already caught it and was asymptomatic, but I know that's just cop-out thinking.

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      • Depends on what you mean by end;will it end completely with 0 cases for many years or for good(that would be a bit weird if you asked me but still possible),or will it subside to a minimum level like yellow fever or will it be like the seasonal flu that reoccurs every year even worse it would never end and will become a major disease like aids or malaria where there is no vaccine and millions die yet people still go about their business,my prediction is the cases will drop to the lowest and people will cautiously return to normal and with or without a vaccine will further become extinct with few cases year by year that will barely make the news just like the bubonic plague pandemic

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        • AIDS was deadlier than COVID19, but also less easy to catch, it wasn't airborne.

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          • I got your point but it affects quite a lot of people worldwide in 2018 it affected 37.9 million people so it’s one of the pandemics that has no end in site as to whether Covid 19 would also follow the same path we have to wait to see if it does we have to live with it there are other “deadlier” airborne diseases around too so it won’t be too strange

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  • Just wait for the election. Seriously I would say tensions would ease like 80% in one day about covid. About everything else would be in the 200% focus rather than covid.

    Either way it's just another thing that is out there ready to kill humanity, it's in the club with AIDs and the normal influenza. Theres gonna be seasons of it but I think there will be a streak of crazy people still going to insane levels of careful about covid.

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    • I feel like tensions are rising because of the lack of a stimulus check, I also think society is leaning more towards democrats specifically for how Mitch McConnell is stonewalling anything Pelosi puts through

      But then there's the silent majority to consider, who knows

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      • Who knows how many closet Trump supporters there are out there who keep it to themselves in conversation to avoid critism and lecturing. Even some of the people openly saying they hate Trump could only be saying so to join in what they think is popular opinion. Look at it this way; 95% of people I've spoken to in the past 4 years have said they hate him, yet he won the 2016 election, hmmmn..

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        • you have to consider his opposition and there are new reports coming out still, like past month or two, of Russia involvement

          I'm not savvy on all the details, but isn't the idea that Putin helped get Trump in as some symbiotic relationship?

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          • Yeah the Democrats have been saying shit like that for 4 years and they still dont have any hard evidence that trump did anything wrong.

            Trump isnt Russias ally if anything hes neutral on russia, the reason for that is that unofficially we like russia more than china. That of course isnt that hard to be better than china and we might need them to stay out of a war with china so being on there neutral side might help.

            If the Democrats don't want outside or inside interference how come they have been particularly attracted towards making mail in voting to be one of the most unsecure lines in voting in a president in all time? Oh you need a consistent signature to be on your ballot? Well we democrats dont want that to be disqualified! What do you mean that might cause an influx and create an a black market for selling votes? Naw we are Democrats and we are clean as a whistle for dealing with minorities and first time voters.

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            • the stuff I read is that Trump wants mail in votes because he thinks he can cheat the system, haven't heard anything about democrats wanting to do that, but that's possible I mean it is the presidential election

              But even if he wasn't involved, which I doubt since if Putin really did put Trump in office he would have had a meeting with Trump, right, and lay it all out for him? And since we want Russia to be allies with us instead of China, and Putin probably knows that, Trump would probably do what he can to work with Russia

              But personally I think the democrats are using the fact that it's McConnell blocking a stimulus to get democrats in the Senate and Biden as president

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      • Mitch McConnell wanted a stimulus check but the Democrats refuse to sign anything where even the Republicans can get a lil credit. It's all partisan shit until the election.

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        • The democrats passed the heroes act in like June, where it's sat in Congress since

          The Republicans kept putting off their own stimulus bill until like 2 days before the unemployment benefits were scheduled to end

          Pelosi did say McConnell had to be the first to start a compromise bill, I did think that was a little mentally weak

          And the problem solvers caucus' bill didn't even do anything with their bill, even though it was written by both sides

          But yeah, all Mitch did was say he wanted one, like Trump did, but as far as working together to pass a bill, they were the ones stonewalling. Did you see that like mini bill they proposed following Pelosi saying let's compromise? I don't think even a stimulus check was included in that, that's not a sign of compromise, that's a sign of him giving Pelosi the finger

          You see a lot of Senate seats are opening up, ones Republicans are currently filling, and most of them are in danger to losing to democrats

          So there's a good chance democrats will run both the house and the Senate, and then if they win the election they'll have almost total control and even if they don't they'll be the ones sending Trump the bills to sign (which means Republicans would get a taste of their own medicine)

          Republicans are definitely waiting for the election to do anything, the democrats are still trying to get things done

          And you know it's stuff like this that made George Washington say to avoid political parties, it's only the citizens that suffer

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          • By democrats getting things done it also includes not funding police, going backwards on civil rights and generally fucking over the united states economy by not reopening and perfering immigrant labor.

            Now please tell me how republicans wanting to reopen the economy at the cost of a few lives of an at risk group is such an evil thing? These are the kind of decisions that goverments need to make. The united states economy being online far outweighs the potential extra 100,000 deaths from covid which might be lower since the vaccine is coming.

            There just needs to be a simple stimulus package with no bells and whistles attached. That should go through both courts. Problem is neither side wants the other side to take credit for it. That's why waiting until the election is over is better since both the newly elected officials and the old officials both want to look good for their voter base.

            Also LITERALLY TODAY PELOSI SHOT DOWN THE 1 BLILLON STIMULUS PACKAGE. Even other democrats wanted to pass it but Pelosi is choosing not to do so for political reasons.

            Also another thing. Why dont republicans make concessions with the democrats? Because the Republicans won the senate and the presidential seat. They won the ability to have a stronger position. It's not their job to make concessions for your benefit. That WAS the stakes at the election bargaining power for laws.

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  • This isn't new...it's happened a few times.

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  • I am enjoying all the death, and the pathetic social problems. Suddenly, the tube up my cock doesn't make me the most pathetic person in the room anymore.

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  • Are you in the UK, dude? It's ridiculous here. They laxed the rules and now they're putting more stringent ones in. It depends on where you're at, but it can't go on that long. People are sick of it by and large, and the economy will take no prisoners. Depressions are horrific. If we enter one then people are really going to feel the heat way worse than this pathetic virus.

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  • It will once we sacrifice the leader of this great nation.

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  • No.

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  • Maybe 19 Covid will go away. It will give me a problem.

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  • The virus will never go away as long as people continue to be stupid.

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  • I want a vaccine that’s as good as the smallpox vaccine.

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  • My mom looked up the Spanish flu pandemics history and told ne it lasted 3 years which seemed quite optimistic since this one is kind of flu as well. We will see.. Is it possible Gates' and CIA bioengineers (or whoever did it) outdid nature with this one? Let's pray to God they get caught in their own trap and with their demise it's all gone as sudden as it came..

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  • It will never end.

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  • I think life will go back to normal sometime in 2022. It's going to be a while.

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  • the virus is real, the hype is overdone, the virus will end when the politicians say it will end. has nothing to do with medicine or science, the virus has become a political agenda.

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