Is bloodshed an intrinsic part of communism?

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  • BLAh81
    10 years ago | pl

    I agree, but I was asking about communism specifically. Surely, you don't think all political ideologies are equally bloodthirsty?

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    • [Old Memory]
      10 years ago | pl

      I think all political ideologies are absent of bloodlust. But all those behind them are not.

      Communism may work better in one place, and worse somewhere else. The degree of bloodshed would always vary, com or cap.

      I think both ideologies can and are used for both peace and violence, neither being responsible for it, rather, those "directing" it.

      Smoke and mirrors.

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      • BLAh81
        10 years ago | pl

        "I think all political ideologies are absent of bloodlust. But all those behind them are not."

        I disagree that all political ideologies are absent of bloodlust. Let's say (hypothetically of course) that I have a political ideology that teaches that all, say, Belgians must violently die. I would say that that IN ITSELF would be a bloodthirsty political ideology then.

        However, I do agree that some of the people behind various (if not all) political ideologies are especially thirsty for blood.

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        • [Old Memory]
          10 years ago | pl

          It's the same principal as "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

          My logic is infallible, yours is muddy.

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          • BLAh81
            10 years ago | pl

            "It's the same principal as "guns don't kill people, people kill people"."

            I don't think that's a very good comparison. A gun in itself doesn't urge people to kill, whereas an ideology in itself certainly can.

            "My logic is infallible, yours is muddy."

            I happen to think it's exactly the other way around.

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            • [Old Memory]
              10 years ago | pl

              And people make choices and are responsible for their choices, 100%. People hold bloodlust, and they are the ones who invent ideology. So the source will always be those within the ideology, not the ideology itself.

              You only happen to think it's exactly the other way around because of the mud you are stuck in.

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              • BLAh81
                10 years ago | pl

                "And people make choices and are responsible for their choices, 100%."

                That doesn't mean that certain ideologies aren't more likely to push people towards the use of violence than others.

                "People hold bloodlust, and they are the ones who invent ideology."

                Yes, people do indeed hold bloodlust, and are indeed the ones who invent ideology. However, they can invent INTRINSICALLY violent ideologies as well as INTRINSICALLY non-violent ideologies.

                "So the source will always be those within the ideology, not the ideology itself."

                Couldn't disagree more.

                "You only happen to think it's exactly the other way around because of the mud you are stuck in."

                I could just as easily say that about you.

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