Intelligence (in any of its various forms) can be an Achilles's heel. Overthinking is a huge drain on a person's energy - and simpler things can take longer because the thought process is longer: they do more thinking per action. Imagine a powerful but slow Microsoft computer, compared to an Android phone. If yoy want to make a high-resolution YouTube video, use the computerm If you want to get to your emails quickly an easily, then you don't bother waiting for your computer to load up, you just go straight to your Android phone. For every couple of thousand emails, you might only produce one YouTube video. And the technology is getting so good now that you can probably download something that'll dispense of your need for the computer to make the YouTube video. Life is like that too.
Intelligent people are often not very efficient - and I have been criticised at work and passed over for jobs possibly because of it. People who think more tend to worry more - there's an old adage that intelligent people are rarely happy, and statistically they tend to be more prone to mental illness. Believe it or not, it is possible to mess up your own head. It's harder to do that if you don't live inside your head as much.
Also, because they expect to understand everything in detail before they consider themselves to have properly 'understood'it, they can irritate people with their questions. They 'see' things in more detail, and get bogged down in the details, and coworkers accuse them of 'making everything needlessly complicated'. Then they might get passed over for projects.
Also, at least where I am, there is a kind of stigma against 'intellectualism'. Maybe out of jealousy, maybe for political reasons. They are viewed as being 'elites' and 'privileged'. When in fact they might be poor, or mentally ill, or jobless, as I have been. Of course there is strength in nunbers, people unite over shared grievances and perceived threats, and intelligent people are both a minority and a 'perceived threat'. I've been excluded for being intelligent. I had a manager once who would make some implicit reference to the university I went to, and to the fact that hers was lower-achieving, most of the time I spoke to her. It embarrassed me. She was never happy for me when I succeeded, and said hurtful things to me, probably to 'compensate' for how bad my presence made her feel. There is a saying, 'Be smart, act stupid' and it exists for a reason!! If I were smarter, I would heed it...
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Ohh my. Where to start. First you are confusing intelligence and knowledge. Or wisdom if you will. Intelligence is the speed at with you can process, retain and recall data. Knowledge it the data you have retained. Anyone can overthink something depending on the number of options and the implications of those choices. As you said people of high intelligence do more "thinking" in the same amount of time as a person with a lower intellect.
And your analogy of a computer and an Android phone is wrong on so many levels I won't even start.
Intelligence and efficiency are not related in anyway this is more a measure of focus. In most cases focus can be learned intelligence can't.
Yes, there seems to be a correlation between high intellect and mental illness. Mostly this is depression and bipolar disorder. Also there is evidence people with higher intellects receive less of a benefit with social interactions.
Yes, I agree there is a stigma against 'intellectualism'. And I have been called privileged several times. Which if you knew me you would laugh. But I don't give it much credence. If someone wants to hate you they will find a reason.
Hey I was into the whole 'correct thy neighbour' approach too but then I found that people stopped wanting to talk to me and it got old. I'm a dunce at STEM tbh, I wanted a superficial picture and I got one, and it did what I wanted it to, so I'm happy. Secondly... everyone else seems to be using 'intelligence' as a fuzzy term, so I will too. I charge 35 euro per hour for private English lessons. I won't correct their lexical errors for less.
As for intelligence vs efficiency... working with intelligence under its 'fuzzy' definition... yes, they're not directly correlated. What I had meant was this: more reflection = more mental effort per action = slower task completion = less efficient worker.
Well, we differ on anti-intellectualism I guess. I've been rejected from enough job interviews, seen enough jealousy, had people prejudge me as a 'snob' because of my university and had overt abuse directed at me... It's a reverse snobbery thing, in most cases I've seen.m
Just want to say as for anti-intellectualism we are on the same page. We both seem to understand the stigma attached to using your natural talents in the work force. My brother got me a job once. When I out preformed him, he quit right their on the spot. I was turned down from Mc Donalds for being overqualified.
What I was trying to say I just gave gave up caring. Almost every person I have ever met in the working world is either lasy or a back stabber, sometimes both. Very few people have a work ethic anymore. No, I'm not an overachiever I just think if you are at work you work, to the best of your ability. When you start something you finish it. ect. Most people don't get that.
And ja posted twice... Domestication is a thing we are property of the elites, hate to get all morbid and bring ya ass down but that's why suicide is illegal and they prefer us dumb.
I understand them preferring to keep us dumb. But why would they prefer to keep us from killing ourselves? What would they gain from that? World overpopulation is a thing. There are more people than resources. Does everyone make do with less (ha ha, in an economy that relies on overconsumption to stay afloat? Not likely!!) or do we gently seek to expedite their departure a little more quickly? 'Whoops, there goes another one of our cherished employees. Ah dangit. Well, look on the bright side. At least we don't have to pay their long-term sick leave or tolerate their snivelling inefficiency any more... Let's get a bright shiny new one!' The world makes me sick. 'Yes, dearie, what was that? You're worried about your grandkids' inheritance? Well boy, do I have the solution for you. Just write 'do not resuscitate', and sign here.' I was visiting a wise, venerable old man from church in respite care and remarked in horror at a document in his portfolio with 'DNR' on it, he said it had something to do with the fact that he had said he didn't want a kidney transplant. I had known him as a stoic, he was a former naval officer and had the tattoo to match, but now he wept in front of me from his nursing home bed, his face yellow, tubes in his nose to help him breathe, 'I'm no use to anyone now. All I do is take. I might as well not be here.'. It was heartbreaking; this former pillar of the community. 'Don't want to pay for your kid? Well your family, community and the state don't want to either. Hello abortion.'. To this day I wonder what my little sister might have been like - I've decided it would have been a girl. It haunts me like an unresolved horror story.
It's as if people were as disposable as everything else. You actively have to believe that here's a kind of abstract value that individual human beings have in themselves, to avoid equating their life's worth with their economic viability. I'm not sure if many of the elites make the distinction between the two clear in practice, even if they do in theory. If these elites who are profiting from our disposability are the 'movers and shakers' of our culture, it's interesting to see that people are being encouraged to view abortion and euthanasia as means of 'empowerment' and that even suicide is undergoing a PR makeover...
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Intelligence (in any of its various forms) can be an Achilles's heel. Overthinking is a huge drain on a person's energy - and simpler things can take longer because the thought process is longer: they do more thinking per action. Imagine a powerful but slow Microsoft computer, compared to an Android phone. If yoy want to make a high-resolution YouTube video, use the computerm If you want to get to your emails quickly an easily, then you don't bother waiting for your computer to load up, you just go straight to your Android phone. For every couple of thousand emails, you might only produce one YouTube video. And the technology is getting so good now that you can probably download something that'll dispense of your need for the computer to make the YouTube video. Life is like that too.
Intelligent people are often not very efficient - and I have been criticised at work and passed over for jobs possibly because of it. People who think more tend to worry more - there's an old adage that intelligent people are rarely happy, and statistically they tend to be more prone to mental illness. Believe it or not, it is possible to mess up your own head. It's harder to do that if you don't live inside your head as much.
Also, because they expect to understand everything in detail before they consider themselves to have properly 'understood'it, they can irritate people with their questions. They 'see' things in more detail, and get bogged down in the details, and coworkers accuse them of 'making everything needlessly complicated'. Then they might get passed over for projects.
Also, at least where I am, there is a kind of stigma against 'intellectualism'. Maybe out of jealousy, maybe for political reasons. They are viewed as being 'elites' and 'privileged'. When in fact they might be poor, or mentally ill, or jobless, as I have been. Of course there is strength in nunbers, people unite over shared grievances and perceived threats, and intelligent people are both a minority and a 'perceived threat'. I've been excluded for being intelligent. I had a manager once who would make some implicit reference to the university I went to, and to the fact that hers was lower-achieving, most of the time I spoke to her. It embarrassed me. She was never happy for me when I succeeded, and said hurtful things to me, probably to 'compensate' for how bad my presence made her feel. There is a saying, 'Be smart, act stupid' and it exists for a reason!! If I were smarter, I would heed it...
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Ohh my. Where to start. First you are confusing intelligence and knowledge. Or wisdom if you will. Intelligence is the speed at with you can process, retain and recall data. Knowledge it the data you have retained. Anyone can overthink something depending on the number of options and the implications of those choices. As you said people of high intelligence do more "thinking" in the same amount of time as a person with a lower intellect.
And your analogy of a computer and an Android phone is wrong on so many levels I won't even start.
Intelligence and efficiency are not related in anyway this is more a measure of focus. In most cases focus can be learned intelligence can't.
Yes, there seems to be a correlation between high intellect and mental illness. Mostly this is depression and bipolar disorder. Also there is evidence people with higher intellects receive less of a benefit with social interactions.
Yes, I agree there is a stigma against 'intellectualism'. And I have been called privileged several times. Which if you knew me you would laugh. But I don't give it much credence. If someone wants to hate you they will find a reason.
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Hey I was into the whole 'correct thy neighbour' approach too but then I found that people stopped wanting to talk to me and it got old. I'm a dunce at STEM tbh, I wanted a superficial picture and I got one, and it did what I wanted it to, so I'm happy. Secondly... everyone else seems to be using 'intelligence' as a fuzzy term, so I will too. I charge 35 euro per hour for private English lessons. I won't correct their lexical errors for less.
As for intelligence vs efficiency... working with intelligence under its 'fuzzy' definition... yes, they're not directly correlated. What I had meant was this: more reflection = more mental effort per action = slower task completion = less efficient worker.
Well, we differ on anti-intellectualism I guess. I've been rejected from enough job interviews, seen enough jealousy, had people prejudge me as a 'snob' because of my university and had overt abuse directed at me... It's a reverse snobbery thing, in most cases I've seen.m
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Just want to say as for anti-intellectualism we are on the same page. We both seem to understand the stigma attached to using your natural talents in the work force. My brother got me a job once. When I out preformed him, he quit right their on the spot. I was turned down from Mc Donalds for being overqualified.
What I was trying to say I just gave gave up caring. Almost every person I have ever met in the working world is either lasy or a back stabber, sometimes both. Very few people have a work ethic anymore. No, I'm not an overachiever I just think if you are at work you work, to the best of your ability. When you start something you finish it. ect. Most people don't get that.
And ja posted twice... Domestication is a thing we are property of the elites, hate to get all morbid and bring ya ass down but that's why suicide is illegal and they prefer us dumb.
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I understand them preferring to keep us dumb. But why would they prefer to keep us from killing ourselves? What would they gain from that? World overpopulation is a thing. There are more people than resources. Does everyone make do with less (ha ha, in an economy that relies on overconsumption to stay afloat? Not likely!!) or do we gently seek to expedite their departure a little more quickly? 'Whoops, there goes another one of our cherished employees. Ah dangit. Well, look on the bright side. At least we don't have to pay their long-term sick leave or tolerate their snivelling inefficiency any more... Let's get a bright shiny new one!' The world makes me sick. 'Yes, dearie, what was that? You're worried about your grandkids' inheritance? Well boy, do I have the solution for you. Just write 'do not resuscitate', and sign here.' I was visiting a wise, venerable old man from church in respite care and remarked in horror at a document in his portfolio with 'DNR' on it, he said it had something to do with the fact that he had said he didn't want a kidney transplant. I had known him as a stoic, he was a former naval officer and had the tattoo to match, but now he wept in front of me from his nursing home bed, his face yellow, tubes in his nose to help him breathe, 'I'm no use to anyone now. All I do is take. I might as well not be here.'. It was heartbreaking; this former pillar of the community. 'Don't want to pay for your kid? Well your family, community and the state don't want to either. Hello abortion.'. To this day I wonder what my little sister might have been like - I've decided it would have been a girl. It haunts me like an unresolved horror story.
It's as if people were as disposable as everything else. You actively have to believe that here's a kind of abstract value that individual human beings have in themselves, to avoid equating their life's worth with their economic viability. I'm not sure if many of the elites make the distinction between the two clear in practice, even if they do in theory. If these elites who are profiting from our disposability are the 'movers and shakers' of our culture, it's interesting to see that people are being encouraged to view abortion and euthanasia as means of 'empowerment' and that even suicide is undergoing a PR makeover...