Im starting to look down on some poor people

I grew up quite poor. I did not graduate highschool. I live in America and I use to always tell myself when I make it, and I always thought I would, I'd give lots of money to homeless people and I'd never forget where I come from. Eventually I got a trade and now I make a comfortable living. I'm not rich but I am able to have a house and cars and still have extra money to save.

Since then I realized it wasnt that hard to get a trade and I start to see people that dont have a trade and work at bad jobs are actually bright people. Some of them are smart, good looking, great people skills, but they work these jobs where they're making $10 - $15 an hour. They have tools that I did not have. And it seems like a lot of these types of people blame society and it is actually their own fault they work these low paying jobs. They want someone to knock on their door and give them a $30 an hour job. When you try to help these people they always find some excuse why they cant do it.

And I have come to the conclusion that these types of people are their own worst enemies. Its often not really society its their self sabotaging mindset. They convinced themselves they're a victim and its societies fault not their own fault for failure. But in reality there is no excuse for failure if you have all the tools and do not use them.

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  • ellnell

    I think it's unfair to judge. You don't know everyones private lives and everyone's different on the inside and might have difficulties you can't see. Most people don't wanna be poor there's nearly always a reason behind someones situation and just because you were strong enough to on your own fix everything about your situation doesn't mean everyone around you are. Then there's some people who are actually quite pleased with working low income jobs and maybe some of them complain sometimes but everyone complains, rich or poor and if it annoys you so much offer them a good solution and move on. If they don't take it it's their problem.

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    • RoyyRogers

      I agree, just becuase you were able get a trade doesn't mean these people can. Also the school system is very biased. I was kicked out at 18 and didn't qualify for a lot of assistance despite that. So I was pretty much screwed my entire life.

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    • LloydAsher

      I kept on telling my female friends in highschool if they didnt know what to do they should weld. Saw the same one later working at a strip club (not the classy kind)

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      • ellnell

        There's classy strip clubs? :D

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        • 1WeirdGuy

          Gentleman clubs. No butthole teasing allowed at those.

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  • my_life_my_way

    Poor people make their own circumstances, it’s almost always due to laziness or stupidity

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    • LloydAsher

      I wouldnt say it's mostly laziness or stupidity (stupidity is hard to pin down depending on what context and decisions they made)

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    • jcline459

      I can agree with the laziness aspect. Even a moron can be rich if they work hard enough or get lucky enough. People who have no desire to put in the work will never achieve anything. It's all about finding out what you want to do that can make you rich, rather than trying all the ways that can make you rich. Not everyone can be successful at anything. I know a guy who has been screen printing all his adult life. He owns the business now and has paid off his house. Can sell the business for over $1 mil. Is he particularly smart or did he pick a profession that pays very well? No.

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  • BatterMilk

    Well in America minimum wage is $7.25 an hour which is not a livable wage. A living wage is around $15.00 an hour. There is also the fact that most of our politicians are corrupt due to them being bought by big money interest. Which means they won't implement policies that most American people want. If we were a true representative democracy then we would already have free collage, free healthcare and a living wage, since that is what the majority of American people want. By the way you fell for the American propaganda of, if a person didn't make it in a society than it's the individuals fault and not the fault of the politicians.

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    • 1WeirdGuy

      If I lived in the UK I would pay 40% of my income where in America I pay 18% and have healthcare thats better than UK healthcare and I dont even pay it out of my check. Its "free" with employment. A significant number of Americans are against socialized healthcare because theres no such thing as free college and free healthcare. You are still paying for it through taxes. Thats why their taxes are so high.

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      • BatterMilk

        I'm talking about a Canadian/French style health care system not the UK one. By the way there's a poll from the hill from 4/25/2020 that says 69% of voters want a Medicare for all type system. They also found in 9/12/2019 that 58% of voters support free collage. You are actually paying more in taxes under the current system due to unnecessary premiums, deductibles, and co payments. Yes, your taxes will be raised under a free healthcare system, but eliminating all the unnecessary baggage will actually save you money under a free healthcare system. How Much? well a study by Koch-funded Mercatus center shows that under a free healthcare system Americans will save $2 trillion dollars over a 10-year period.

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        • 1WeirdGuy

          It would be good for some people for sure. But It will cost me alot of money and also my family. Ill get a worse plan the canadian plan isnt that good compared to mine. I currently dont pay anything but a $10 co pay no matter where I go to. The ER is free once a year then $10 after that. No deductible either. We have great insurance at my company and its free with employment. Its the UPS insurance if you wanna check it out. So my taxes will more than double for worst healthcare, so you can see why I dont want it. My father and brother and sister are in the same boat with good healthcare basically for free.

          Ontop of that doctors make significantly less in Canada and UK so you know they're gonna be upset when their wages get cut by 4x.

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          • BatterMilk

            From Fox News Business. Dr. Adam Gaffney says "by moving to a single-payer system in an affordable way you can still pay doctors roughly comparable to what they're being paid now". Under your plan, you will still have the worst healthcare system in the world by a wide margin. According to a study done by Monique Scotty by Global news the US ranks 11th out of 11th in terms of healthcare. While Canada ranks 9th out of 11th. You would also leave about 31,000,000 people uninsured according to www.healthaffairs.org who have studied how many people were uninsured in 2020. You also forgot the fact that medical bankruptcies is one of the leading causes of bankruptcies in the US. Which, by the way doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. Find me a study from a credible source that says that the US has the best healthcare system in the world, and if not then I'm dusting my hands and walking away.

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        • jcline459

          That's a load of crap. The reason most people ACTUALLY don't want expensive, not free, Medicare for all is because the bill is unevenly distributed. Imagine going to dinner, and the only thing you order is a $10 burger. You don't want to split the bill with the person who ordered a $100 steak.

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    • jcline459

      Who cares if I'm uninsured? The uninsured usually get their healthcare free off the backs of hardworking people. Insurance is the reason healthcare is so expensive. If we paid hospitals directly to tak care of us, and they had a "traveler's plan" with the hospital, we would never need insurance again. Cut out the middle man, all your money is going into the pockets of wall street.

      So, the subscription basis would be:
      -I pay if I'm healthy
      -I don't pay if I'm sick
      -Hospitals can invest the money in R&D, infrastructure, and stock if they feel like it
      -Hospitals can employ more people because they would replace insurance companies
      -Hospitals can network with one-another to provide patients with more specialist options, and have more resources
      -Hospitals have an incentive to keep you healthy and perform safer and better surgeries/treatments
      -Hospitals are less likely to have malpractice suits because they can afford better equipment and more personnel, driving costs down
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      -Hospitals could offer lower payment plans for people without pre-existing conditions
      -People with pre-existing conditions would pay more, but pay nothing while they're unhealthy (which is the biggest worry, unknown future expenses)

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  • freakyman69

    I look down on lazy people. some of them just happen to be poor as well. im not looking down on them for being poor but for the unwillingness to do anything to dig themselves out of the poverty.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    ted knight in caddyshack:

    'the world needs ditch diggers too'

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  • GaelicPotato

    I always say "just stop being poor"

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  • Voray

    Not everyone wants to work in trades. Some aren't even cut out for it. And contrary to the popular belief, trades don't make that much. Unless you are in the top 10% with many years of experience.

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    • I know roofers make around 40-100 an hour. I think AC repair ppl do pretty good too. You can make a decent living.

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  • BleedingPain

    I cant tell you how to make the american system better, but I do know that medications should not cost an arm and a leg. ALSO, generic medications are not the same and brand name and thus should be better regulated to make said brand name drugs more affordable.

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  • Holzman_67

    I, almost always, blame it on John Cusack.

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    • wigz

      I still have a crush on John Cusack.

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    • YE

      ?

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  • jcline459

    Some things are a matter of dumb luck, others are a matter of hard work. Certainly, there are people who make it big or lose everything on chance. Most people, however, don't want to change because they see it as "too difficult." I understand, I could do things myself to make my life better, but I have grown accustomed to the level of success that I have now. I'm not going to make excuses and act like that's not my personal decision. It's people who think that life comes down to a few moments that make us happy, or fulfilled, etc. that fail themselves. Who you are is not one or two instances, it's how you live your life every day. Every moment matters.

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  • I think things would be easier for them because they have more of the necessary tools than I did. I was working with a major disadvantage. Their mindset is whats self sabotaging them.

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  • Sanara

    Maybe it's a matter of the number of jobs available in each category

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