Im a guy with a rape fantasy that has nothing to do with hurting girls

I've heard a lot about female rape fantasy's being okay because they aren't actually about rape. Well I'm a guy with a rape fantasy. That said, I don't want to have sex with any woman who doesn't want to have sex with me. My fantasy isn't about hurting women and the few times I've gone too far with a girl have made me really tense and jittery around women for some time after, I tend to err on the side of caution because I'm already physically intimidating. I think it still is a power trip though. Here it is, the bare bones of it at least, a caricature of the rape fantasy I don't feel the least bit ashamed of but which is almost impossible to act out safely.

A girl I've been wanting to have sex with has been flirting with me for some time now, it's been building up for a while and we're both clearly interested. She comes over to my place or invites me over to hers. However it happens, booze conversation, whatever we end up kissing and it escalates. She wants it but for whatever mental reason feels she should say no. May be she's afraid of being shamed, maybe she is afraid I just want to hit and quit, whatever the reason the point is that she has an internal mental conflict and she's on the edge decision-wise. This is the point. Here I'm supposed to back away or just not elevate it to sex,but in the fantasy I do. I don't say anything, kiss her and go for it. She's startled and wide eyed at first but soon STARTS TO ENJOY IT. That's critical, I'm not so much making her decision as I am making her experience what she really wanted the whole time. From there it's all consensual and she leaves of happy that I did what I did.

I've analysed myself and figured out where this fantasy comes from. I lost my virginity pretty late, 20. I had a few chances to have sex prior to that where I was alone in the room with the girl who was obviously attracted to me. I'd just act friendly and over think myself into paralysis; "does she want to or not?", "am I reading this wrong?", "I don't want her to get the wrong impression, I'm not a douche bag". All the while all of their signals would become unintelligible to me until I'm leaving their room hours later confused and still a virgin. Happened 3 times and those girls never seemed interested in me afterwards, it was one shot and done.

The fantasy comes part from me wanting to be able to make a clear sexual decision confidently where everything just goes well without all the needless over thinking and hyper awareness on my end and part from a projection of my past conflicted self onto her. When I was in those situations I remember thinking, god I wish she would just DO SOMETHING sexual so I'll know. I took the consent thing pretty seriously at the time and while I knew straight up asking if they wanted to have sex would be weird I hoped there would be some other sort of obvious confirmation, which there never was. I was also very aware that there was no "point of no return" and that no matter how good things were going I should pay attention because "Stop" could come at any moment.

So what do you think? Am I a creepy rapist or nah? P.S. I've managed to get past this and have sex a few times since. Sometimes I've gone a little too far with girls (unwanted second base while kissing) but far more often I've backed off perhaps a bit early (stopping a sexy massage when she asked me to and having her stare at me dissapointedly), I've just accepted that either may happen and that's that. The fantasy persists though.

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  • So the situation that you described is not rape. You described a very common situation where a guy and a girl are getting hot, he wants to, she is on the fence, he makes his move anyway, she likes it and decides to go for it, and they enjoy pleasurable sex.

    This is rape...

    A guy and a girl are getting hot, he wants to, she is on the fence, he makes his move anyway, she feels uncomfortable, decides it not right and pushes him away. He disregards her feelings and forces himself on her. She is scared, crying, begging him to stop, but he just keeps going. Afterwards, she is an emotional mess.

    Do you see the difference? The only place you find a woman enjoying the experience of being raped is in a pornographic film.

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  • First of all kudos to you for thinking this through so thoroughly. It's extremely rare people can reflect that well internally, let alone articulate the way you did. So you're starting off on the right track for sure!

    I don't think your fantasy is wrong. In my mind it could also be seen as liberating for the woman because now you are helping her make the decision she has been trying to make and doing it, in my mind, heroically haha. Does that make sense?

    From my experience, if the sexual tension like what you're describing is there and you cant figure out how or when to make the move happen, and you essentially want to dominate her out of her shyness, straight up ask her in a joking way, after just having a good moment where there's some kind of flirting:

    "hey what would you do if I just kissed you right now?"

    If she responds nervously but in a good way, don't say anything and just go in and kiss her. Pay super close attention to how her body responds. If there is any hesitation or resistance at all slowly ease off and let the moment settle. Pt 2>>

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    • This would probably mean she's into you but shes not ready to go far. to prevent a follow-up awkward moment, blow it off by just saying, "wow...sorry, you're just a really good kisser haha."

      Then hopefully she's not an awkward girl and will just say something like, "boy you're dangerous!" then from there just have a good rest of the night and I know now that it's not going to work.

      BUT!!! If when you kiss her and move forward she does not resist or hesitate, be the one to release the beast from within you and her!

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