Is it normal what do think of trump nixing food stamps ,sending food boxes?

It will mostly be cans and fake milk no fruit or veggies.If it is spoiled or the recipient can't eat it, too bad. If it stolen off your porch too bad. I was homeless when I was young and think it is awful to do this to people already having major struggles.

yes lets stick it to those welfare queens 7
poor people don't deserve to eat anyway get a third job 4
smells like dictatorship why don't we take junk and booze of the menu? 4
won't this hurt grocery stores who accept snap 4
trump should have to eat the stuff for three months and then get back to us 9
This is going to start a riot. 4
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  • lonewolf1253

    Let them eat cake.

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    • nikkiclaire

      Yeah, that turned out well, didn't it!!

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      • lonewolf1253

        A little decapitation never hurt anyone. They die better that way.

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        • Emokate

          Interesting that you are volunteering for a good decapitation.

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          • lonewolf1253

            Thank you. For you, I would suggest a simple castration or genital mutilation. Then, you see, you could not further contaminate the planet with your defective genes.

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  • charli.m

    I think people deserve to have a choice as to what food they bring into their homes. It comes down to basic dignity - I imagine it would feel very degrading to have your autonomy taken away while being judged as incapable of making your own smart choices without being given the chance to do so. And degrading and dehumanising people only makes the whole situation worse.

    It does become a problem, however, because there are many who abuse it. It SHOULD be spent on healthy stuff, because it is meant to sustain the families or individuals it goes to. Proteins, fruit and veg really aren't that expensive, at least not in the Walmart/Ingles/Harris Teeter's I've been to. Wholefoods was pretty decent, too. But people also deserve to be able to treat themselves and choose how and when they do that.

    So ideally, the system would adequately support that. But I guess that's kinda complicated.

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    • sillygirl77

      Well said

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      • charli.m

        Thanks :)

        Good to see you still around :)

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        • sillygirl77

          ty. I still come around, but not as often. Work has been so busy. I'm often exhausted. Nice to see you as well

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    • Checkmate_King

      They can have that choice when they use their own money. Beggars can't be choosers.

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  • wigz

    It's an awful idea. Not only is it cruel and dehumanizing, it's financially stupid. Even if you don't care about the direct recipients of SNAP, there's still farmers, manufacturers, suppliers, grocers and many other cogs in this machine that would be dealt a huge financial blow here. It won't happen because of what I just said, these businesses won't allow it. Honestly, I think the main purpose of even proposing this is to stoke the 'hate the poor' flames...the bootstrap bullshit rhetoric...I think trump even knows he can't take these billions out of the hands of big business but he wants to be able to look like he tried to 'do something' about these 'leeches'.

    People need to mind their own business too. What does it matter to anyone how someone spends their food budget? If they're stupid and buy crap that only lasts a few days then so what? They're the ones who have to live with their choice. People will also bitch when SNAP recipients buy good food. They'll say bullshit like "I work and I can't afford to buy all that fruit and cheese"...Jesus, people, just forget it. Let people have their couple hundred a month and spend it how they see fit. Most people bitching about this shit don't hardly pay any taxes anyway, certainly nowhere near enough to even cover the gov services they themselves use let alone enough to pay for anyone elses.

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    • Aethylfritha

      Well its not really THEIR budget if its coming from peopkes taxes who work. Theres that.

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      • wigz

        It's theirs. It's funds put into an account that belongs to them.

        And just FYI...

        "Nearly two-thirds of SNAP participants were
        children, elderly, or had disabilities. Forty-four
        percent of participants were under age 18, 11 percent
        were age 60 or older, and 10 percent were disabled
        nonelderly adults.

        Many SNAP participants had jobs. Nearly one-
        third (32 percent) of all SNAP households – and
        more than half (55 percent) of households with
        children – had earnings in 2015. Overall, 44 percent
        of SNAP participants lived in a household with
        earnings."

        -USDA, 2015 report

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        • Aethylfritha

          Sorry but i am pretty needy and i dont get any free stuff. I dont begrudge helping people but ive seen welfare parents buy food, return it for cash or buy tgemselves nice food while feeding their kids spaghettios. I think they could use some guidance as to what to feed their kids.
          Its easy to abuse us all im saying.

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          • wigz

            Why don't you get any assistance?

            It's best to just mind your own business regarding the other stuff. You don't necessarily know why someone's returning food or how they bought it in the first place. I mean, even if they did buy something with stamps and return it for cash (which you can't really do anyway, for the most part, for many reasons) maybe they needed cash to get diapers, soap or gas in their car. So. Fucking. What. Just let it go. These people are poor, they're not living high even if they do indulge here or there or not do everything 100% by the book. Their life probably sucks. And unless you're filthy rich, you don't pay a cent for any of this.

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            • Aethylfritha

              Cause i dont qualify for any help.
              Im not actually affecting.. them but i dont have to like it.
              Youre right though a lot of poor peopke have shitty lives!

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  • e51pegasi

    As a non US resident would someone mind explaining SNAP & why the orange one wants to do away with it?

    I (think I) grasp the basic premise that it is supposed to supplement people's diet with better and healthier food or am I off the mark?
    Is it open to abuse? Shopkeepers selling stuff they shouldn't be selling to recipients? Can you buy booze, tobacco & pet food or even clothes with it?

    Is it just a way to demonize a certain tract of society purporting to be a cost cutting exercise?
    Or, does he think that sending boxes of food will be cheaper in the long run & will force people to cook & others to learn to cook from scratch?

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    • Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly Food Stamps (the national hunger safety net).
      The idea is to give people a healthy balanced diet. Today recipients get a card that is honored at grocery and convenience stores nationwide and buy gallons of soda, ice cream, and pounds of junk food because it is considered “consumable”. The only restricted items today are cigarettes and alcohol, but you can buy all the beef jerky and candy you want.
      Every single person I’ve seen use the card is immense and there isn’t a single fruit or vegetable in sight for miles. They are expected to buy food to prepare at home instead of contributing to the obesity problem that is already rampant.

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      • nikkiclaire

        Read my post. You can't buy meat on $112 a month and expect to sustain yourself. You buy staples, such as pasta, potatos, canned vegetables, rice, beans and that is abouy it. You obviously have no clue about being poor. What was that Rachel Ray show, $30 dollars a day 😂😂😂 try supplement a family of three on $3 a day. Fucking retard.

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        • Um read all my posts. I said protein, that is not restricted to “meat”. I bought 5lbs of chicken breast with ribs for $4 today. That is 6 healthy servings, more if you make a stew or hearty soup. Beans are also protein and can be served a dozen ways to supplement “meat”.
          And didn’t you grow up in Australia working on a farm anyway? So you could buy a dog? Poor people don’t buy dogs. Learn to read and get your bullshit stories straight. Stupid jackass.

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          • Checkmate_King

            boneless chikken boobs here are 79 cents a pound on sale

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            • Yep. That’s about right.

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            • nikkiclaire

              Were tf do you live?

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          • nikkiclaire

            Even if you did 6 servings is 2 meals for 3 people and you are $1 over your daily food allowance. So guess what no third meal and skimp tomorrow.

            But you didn't.

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          • nikkiclaire

            Right cause people never move.

            5lbs of chicken breast with ribs for $4 huh. Ok buddy.

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            • People with low income don’t buy dogs, period. SNAP is a supplementary (read partial) program and the use of “food stamps” ended nationwide in 2004, yet you’re a 19 year old “girl” and moved from Australia. You would have never heard that term. Keep going buddy, we can do this all day. This persona you’re maintaining is keeping everyone entertained.

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            • I really need to move to where you can buy 5 lbs of breast for 4 bucks. I have some in my freezer right now marked $1.79 per lb sale price.

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        • Rich_Guy

          Perhaps your inability to survive on $3 per day is contributing to your poverty. The first trick is to buy Mac N Cheese by the case. It's more calories per dollar than anything else. Peanut butter Jelly sandwiches are cheap carbs. Brownie mixes, Ramen Noodles, and cook-it-yourself oatmeal are also caloric bargains.

          On $3/day you'll have more than enough to quickly become obese and develop type 2 diabetes. In fact, this is what the poorest 20% usually do. Stop whining about being hungry. Hunger is for super models, anorexics, and under-developed African countries.

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          • nikkiclaire

            I didn't whine. I survived. For a rich man you don't read very well.

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            • Rich_Guy

              Glad you survived. But, you make it sound as if it is difficult to eat on $3/day, when in fact it is very easy. I would never suggest that working class people shop at Whole Foods like I do.

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        • YamaMayaNyaa

          No one would begrudge a poor person rice pasta potatoes and canned food. Soda, chips, chocolate, and ice cream are luxury items which I don't feel has a place in a NUTRITIONAL program...

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          • nikkiclaire

            Agreed. Since leaving my family home and being out on my own I haven't touched a dime of tax payer money and never will again. We did have church meals the first few weeks.

            I didn't ask to be born into a hell hole family and I did the best I could.

            The people on here saying a box of expired food is good stuff, would perhaps begrudge people. I pray they are never poor and suffering.

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      • Hateful1

        You can buy lobster with it.

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      • e51pegasi

        Thanks for the insight.

        I can now see it isn't doing exactly what it was set up to challenge or even eliminate.

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        • Exactly. It was meant for the poor to supplement boxes of ramen, mac & cheese, or pasta that you can buy 10 for a $1, with some protein or fruits and vegetables that can be costly, especially out of season.
          BTW: I haven’t heard Trump propose what the OP states, but it is not a bad idea. It fixes two problems at once imo.

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          • Hateful1

            Actually, it's a horrible idea. The logistics of shipping it all alone is staggering.

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            • pendletonGibbs

              Nah, just roll restaurant and grocery store dumpsters to the curb.

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            • Not if they do it through Amazon; UPS, USPS, and drones. Since Amazon owns Wholefoods...
              They can also have centralized locations for pickup.
              Most major supermarket chains also deliver groceries.
              Uber it, join forces with meals on wheels, Red Cross, Salvation Army, volunteers...etc.
              Getting it to people isn’t the problem, the challenge is picking the right suppliers.

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          • Checkmate_King

            Every bodega in the barrio takes foodstamps at face value and redeems them for cash at 50 percent less. Fraud is everywhere. Cancel the entire system as most of the food stamp money goes for drugs and to dealers.

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            • I agree and have seen it. I didn’t want to go down that road as I was busy outting user NikkiClaire as a fraud and phony.

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  • Ummitsme

    I have done it all and seen it all.
    Sure some junkies want to buy your whole cart of groceries if you give them cash, $.50/1.00

    Most "food stamp" users are actually people that work over forty hours a week and don't generate enough income to afford to feed their families.

    Single mothers, elderly fathers. Often times these are the bread winners in America and it isn't enough. It is very ironic how many U.S. citizens are borderline obese or starving. The lack of quality food at an affordable price and lack of education contributes to this. The first lady before Trump worked to help this problem.

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    • nikkiclaire

      Michelle enforced food rules in schools that created meals no one would eat. Hardly helping anyone.

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      • Ummitsme

        Michelle innacted eating values, changed the public school diet in a positive and meaningful way. Gave the option of farm to table, healthy alternatives to the prevuously processed shit. Some shitty parents chose to circumvemt her ideas and continued to feed their kids sugar crack salt pop chips in light of a healthier alternative.

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        • nikkiclaire

          Were you in schools? Shit was inedible.

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          • Ummitsme

            I understand the transition from processed chicken nuggets and ez mac to cheese, fruits, vegetables, and non processed meats is often difficult for children. Over time you will come to crave quality foods if you just try them. I will make aeroplain noises and feed you if need be.

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            • Emokate

              I am going to bet I eat healthier than you do. What noise does an aeroplain make, it sounds dull.

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  • Imo, there was no need to nix the food stamps. People could at least choose the foods that they wanted to buy.

    That being said, I have only basic knowledge on this subject.

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  • pendletonGibbs

    It's one of the very, very few good ideas Trump has had. Fill the boxes with expired groceries and end EBT card abuse.

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  • nikkiclaire

    I was a food stamp child. I had to shop for a family of 3 on $112 a month.

    No one is getting rich, or even very drunk on food stamps. To even use them for nefarious means like buying alcohol you have to sell them, which is of course illegal. Why punish poor people for a criminals behavior?

    It's all media, showmanship. I am a Trump supporter btw, but this is nonsense hype. It is not feasible and it won't happen.

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  • magic7

    This prevents selling food stamps for money and then using the money for drugs. People lie saying they’re not married just to get more food stamps! Then they use the money for drugs

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  • Aethylfritha

    Ive always suggested having warehouses with healthy eessentials rather than just spend it any way they want. Not to be mean but people who cant afford to take care of their own kids may not be the best decision makers.Believe me some people cheat or buy crap other than to feed their kids. If the food stamp system was more like WIC i think that would improve things a lot.

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  • Bonelessbananas69

    trump should have to eat the stuff for three months and then get back to us

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  • nikkiclaire

    Does anyone in this thread actually have any statistics on this because it seems everyone is talking right out of their ass.

    What does snap cost.
    How much of snap money is abuse.
    How much does a food box save.

    Anyone???

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    • Ummitsme

      No actual statistics since it is such a dumb idea. We do have logical acknowledgements though. By default there will be a big expense of shipping food to millions of people. You are talking about moving millions of tons of freight all over the country. Do you want to outsource taxpayer dollars to someone that can actually handle it, like Amazon? There will be a necessary number of government jobs to oversee and implement this plan as well.

      A card giving the recipient the power to purchase locally is obviously more efficient than moving millions of tons of freight unnecessarily. That should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, but hey some people think coal is the future of power.

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      • nikkiclaire

        All true.

        Some people also think electricity is cleaner than gas. They have no idea where electricity comes from though. (Fossil fuels, hydroelectric dams or nuclear power) all of which they are against.

        People are idiots.

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  • YamaMayaNyaa

    If you are truly too poor to afford food to eat, you would be grateful for anything given to you. I have been poor and had to rely on the kindness of others. If I abused their kindness I would have been called a sponge and rightfully so. The welfare queens bitching about this are spoilt and need to learn what a hard day's work is.

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  • Obviously, as many have pointed out, the idea of sending food boxes is to cut out abuse of the system, which desperately needs to be fixed. Where I live, it is common knowledge that food stamps are sold at a rate of .50 cents on a dollar. Its so common to trade food stamps for cash here that when my wife asked her co worker why in the world she would cheat herself like that, she responded "just about everybody be doing that". Giving out food boxes instead of a voucher would basically eliminate this abuse, both by recipients, and those who take advantage of them. At a glance, this seems like a great idea.

    But, there are a few downsides that make this a really bad idea.

    With food boxes, people won't be able to pick and choose what kind of food they get and everyone has different nutritional needs.

    Some people will sell their food boxes for drugs and get their food from churches and food banks (I know of at least one woman who does this already with her snap benefits and it seems a common practice).

    Local stores will suffer a loss of sales which will harm local economies.

    The logistics of shipping food will cause the already burdened taxpayers more money in the long run.

    I'm not sure if there's a way to stop abuse of and dependency on the welfare system, but food boxes aren't it. The only thing that I do know is that in my experience, if the percentage of people who are abusing a system designed to give them at least a little help would would take the energy and effort they are using to abuse the system and direct it at getting themselves out of their situation, welfare would be cut in half.

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    • Ummitsme

      You're missing the point of how expensive it is to move and ship heavy stuff. Imagine shipping just one can of beans to every emt card holder. That will be exponentially more expensive than any costs from individuals abusing the emt cards. Think.

      But please do, move cans of spinach all over the country to stop a single mother from buying a steak with a card. I sell/lease warehouse/flex space and I selfishly kind of hope this bright idea gets implemented.

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      • pendletonGibbs

        Instead of food boxes, how about nothing? Why are we feeding these parasites?

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