Damnit, I sure hope this is fake.
You need to pick up a history book, there. Look up the war of 1812, and have you ever heard of the Vietnam war? Never won that one. How about, Red Cloud's war?
That is the first thing wrong with this, but because I do not want to be on here all day, I will leave it to the other posters on here to let you know the rest.
I may not be spot-on, so I was making generalizations below.
@ poster, my history is fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure we didn't destroy the British empire. We announced our independence from the crown. Basically that means we told them we weren't going to pay the taxes the crown demanded. We were already a colony, they weren't trying to colonize us. You can't colonize something already a colony for the same empire.
The language you reference is English, indeed the language of business. But it isn't because of TV. The second most popular language on earth is Spanish. Because English covers more countries than, say, Mandarin, English is accepted in a wider variety of roles.
You were being an ignorant dick in the bar, and even as an American I would punch you. If you travel to another country, do as they do. Trying to get them to bow to your will will cause you to get shot. Traveling abroad 101, even my 7 year old nephew knows that. "If your in Rome, do as the Romans do."
Your Christianity argument is poor. 80% of Americans are not Christian. I would even say its less than 50%, but for saving time I'll say 40%. 10% are atheiest, 20% are Muslim, 20% are Jewish, and 10% fall into another type of religious category. God has nothing to do with it.
In terms of education, America is one of the worst in the world. Japan has one of the best educational systems in the world, which also translates into technology and medicine 10-15 year ahead of America. They also have lower obesity, lower homeless, lower jobless, better healthcare, and higher incomes. America is mediocre at best.
China is a superpower. They have better military discipline and sheer numbers. Although our technology may be ahead of theirs, in terms of a war they would certainly win. They have had thousands of years of civilization beyond us. They have also given the world things like the "Art of War", Jade pottery that has withstood centuries, and even one of the wonders of the world. They are growing in their ability every week. They also have the largest deposits of natural resources in the world.
I really feel sorry for the world when ignorant Americans like yourself get out of their cage. Instead of eating your dorritos and watching your TV, pick up a history book.
Though I agree with almost everything you said...China is not a Superpower, they're a World Power. Whether or not they'd win in a war is subjective since most likely, if the West quit buying their goods, they'd starve. Their sheer numbers certainly would prove a major obstacle, but the natural recources they boast mainly lie in metals, which would probably fall short of feeding such an enormous population.
The U.S. certainly isn't poor in resources.. enough farmland to feed many countries. The Chinese military is nowhere near as seasoned or loyal as the U.S. Ask anyone in China if they remember Tiananmen Square and watch for a change in disposition. Chinese technology is certainly forthcoming, but they're still ages behind...but you did say that.
The Chinese definitely deserve credit for their rich history, intellect, and invention...but no...I have to respectfully disagree that they're superior. They are a great culture living under a repressive government which will never let their people live to their full abilities...regardless of their Jade pottery and their claim to one of the Wonders of the World.
It does, however, make me sad that this debate takes place under a thread started by someone who not only made no valid, debatable point...but whom I seriously doubt is even American.
Thats why I put that little disclaimer that I was trying to make generalizations. Indeed I have learned something, and that makes each day worth waking up for.
The last class I had that even dealt with history was an anthropology class taught by a graduate student from Denmark. He mainly liked talking in class about how hot American girls were, and about how meso-american indians enjoyed corn.
Tidbit aside, what are the separations now-a-days between Worldpower and Superpower? We were always taught that a Superpower was any country with nuclear capability. At the time that was Russia, Germany, USA, Canada, France, Great Britain, India, Japan, China, Greenland, Iceland, Spain, Sweden, and some others that I can't remember the names of. Do me a favor, don't get old haha.
I guess my understanding of the difference between a Superpower and a World Power lies in a combination of several things; economics, nuclear capabilities, technological advantage, political standing...to name a few. Although the Chinese deservingly claim their share of all these aspects, they're still in a budding, pre-adolescent stage of their standing as a World Power.
When the Soviet Union collapsed, the world's political conventional wisdom proclaimed the U.S. as the "sole Superpower," and took a figurative "step back," almost recoiling with suspicion, even fear, since we all know that power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
What gives a country the ability to deem another one powerful? Actually I think I'm more interested in how that ranking gets determined. Ok to narrow that one down even more, are their government entities in the particular country that can state "these reasons?"
I ask that because we "talk a big game" but in reality have horrible numbers, or so far at this point from the political occurrences (and I admit I don't keep up. IMHO its a bunch of rich old men who are out of touch). I guess this seems more like a pros vs cons about America now. So not going into that, is the picture we present to the world the real happenings(no healthcare is a big one. I have a bachelor's degree, cannot find a job, and have no healthcare. Literally living with a parent just to survive), or is it the fake ideals of say the 1950's? (Every Harry Dick and Jane has a job or is a stay-home parent, and its possible to keep up with the Jones')
I know that was awkward. Long day of trying to find a suit cheap enough but that would fit. Eskews my thinking to screen ability.
It's not so much one country deeming another powerful, but a concensus of many with multipule factors.
Healthcare is a huge issue...straying from the subject severely...but instead of trying to model our system after many failing countries, why aren't we trying to get to the source of the problem? Litigation, insurance company greed, and a system built by/for/of lawyers, fed by pharmaceutical companies' lobbyists would be a good place to start...
I really am sorry you're struggling financially now. That sucks big time. I have no college degree. I'm a blue collar worker who started working for my current company fresh out of high school 25 years ago and can't imagine what it'd be like to work for another company..let alone beat the pavement looking, trying to sell my skills, despite the reputation I've built across this city.
Though I'm sure I trashed my credibility admitting I've no formal education beyond high school, I built my opinions from a wealth of valuable sources. I spend a considerable amount of time reading...everything. I enjoy opinions counter to my point of view and keep an open mind. Then I research them...in constant search of the truth...whatever that may be.
I sincerely hope you find a good job soon. Best of luck to you sir. When you do, I hope it turns out better than anything you hoped for.
With the highest unemployment rate of any country. Where citizens have to pay for healthcare.
One of the worst educational systems.
Some of the highest crime rates.
Some of the highest murder rates.
The most censored TV and Internet of anywhere else in the world.
Some of the least paid employees, worst job moral, hated government, greedy corporations...
Should I go on?
I was born in Florida. I've also lived in Indiana, Ohio, Texas, Louisiana, California, Washington, Virginia, New York, and Iowa. And they all suck.
So by "People like you" I hope you mean yourself to0. Because I am an American. I'm just not proud of it.
We do NOT have the highest unemployment rate in the world. Places like Germany and Spain, not to mention Greece, all have over 35% unemployments. Ours hovers, depending on state, between 9-16%. That's hardly the worst.
Can't ONE post on here get all their facts straight? We WON the war of 1812 with the help of a whole buncha tornados, although we didn't win any of Canada. We LOST Vietnam. The winners or losers of these past two wars is highly debatable. Hell we can hardly tell whether the middle east has experienced one or two American driven wars this past decade!
The hair brain who wrote the original article can hardly be a real person. However the rest of the answers, some intelligent, some not, are making false and unintelligent statements here and there! Let's GOOGLE SHIT before you spout off. The worst offender is the idiot who talks about illuminati or the Gelmurag who has a brain the size of a black pea.
Its an okay show, nothing to write home about, though. When is the main character EVER going to get to the moment where he finally tells his kids how he met their mother?! In realtime, this would be the longest story ever told. On top of that, how many people can remember that far into their past with such an attention to details?
How about the fact China practically owns the U.S. because the U.S. owes China over a TRILLION dollars. If I were China, I wouldn't bomb the U.S. either, I'd want my money back. The ol' U.S. of A is currently kissing Chinese ass, wanting more money of course. I think I'm allergic to Americans after reading this...
Just in case you don't believe me, and these are both American sites.
http://www.financialpost.com/news/owes+China+third+more+than+thought/4365015/story.html
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/03/01/134159785/the-u-s-owes-china-1-2-trillion
There aren't really any other examples of the us losing a war, particularly a 'declared' war.
There are quite a few examples of wars the US hasn't won though (as opposed to lost). Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and of course the drug war. Some more arguable than others.
IIN to think that the USA is the greatest country in the world?
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Damnit, I sure hope this is fake.
You need to pick up a history book, there. Look up the war of 1812, and have you ever heard of the Vietnam war? Never won that one. How about, Red Cloud's war?
That is the first thing wrong with this, but because I do not want to be on here all day, I will leave it to the other posters on here to let you know the rest.
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I love you for pointing those out.
I may not be spot-on, so I was making generalizations below.
@ poster, my history is fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure we didn't destroy the British empire. We announced our independence from the crown. Basically that means we told them we weren't going to pay the taxes the crown demanded. We were already a colony, they weren't trying to colonize us. You can't colonize something already a colony for the same empire.
The language you reference is English, indeed the language of business. But it isn't because of TV. The second most popular language on earth is Spanish. Because English covers more countries than, say, Mandarin, English is accepted in a wider variety of roles.
You were being an ignorant dick in the bar, and even as an American I would punch you. If you travel to another country, do as they do. Trying to get them to bow to your will will cause you to get shot. Traveling abroad 101, even my 7 year old nephew knows that. "If your in Rome, do as the Romans do."
Your Christianity argument is poor. 80% of Americans are not Christian. I would even say its less than 50%, but for saving time I'll say 40%. 10% are atheiest, 20% are Muslim, 20% are Jewish, and 10% fall into another type of religious category. God has nothing to do with it.
In terms of education, America is one of the worst in the world. Japan has one of the best educational systems in the world, which also translates into technology and medicine 10-15 year ahead of America. They also have lower obesity, lower homeless, lower jobless, better healthcare, and higher incomes. America is mediocre at best.
China is a superpower. They have better military discipline and sheer numbers. Although our technology may be ahead of theirs, in terms of a war they would certainly win. They have had thousands of years of civilization beyond us. They have also given the world things like the "Art of War", Jade pottery that has withstood centuries, and even one of the wonders of the world. They are growing in their ability every week. They also have the largest deposits of natural resources in the world.
I really feel sorry for the world when ignorant Americans like yourself get out of their cage. Instead of eating your dorritos and watching your TV, pick up a history book.
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Though I agree with almost everything you said...China is not a Superpower, they're a World Power. Whether or not they'd win in a war is subjective since most likely, if the West quit buying their goods, they'd starve. Their sheer numbers certainly would prove a major obstacle, but the natural recources they boast mainly lie in metals, which would probably fall short of feeding such an enormous population.
The U.S. certainly isn't poor in resources.. enough farmland to feed many countries. The Chinese military is nowhere near as seasoned or loyal as the U.S. Ask anyone in China if they remember Tiananmen Square and watch for a change in disposition. Chinese technology is certainly forthcoming, but they're still ages behind...but you did say that.
The Chinese definitely deserve credit for their rich history, intellect, and invention...but no...I have to respectfully disagree that they're superior. They are a great culture living under a repressive government which will never let their people live to their full abilities...regardless of their Jade pottery and their claim to one of the Wonders of the World.
It does, however, make me sad that this debate takes place under a thread started by someone who not only made no valid, debatable point...but whom I seriously doubt is even American.
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Thats why I put that little disclaimer that I was trying to make generalizations. Indeed I have learned something, and that makes each day worth waking up for.
The last class I had that even dealt with history was an anthropology class taught by a graduate student from Denmark. He mainly liked talking in class about how hot American girls were, and about how meso-american indians enjoyed corn.
Tidbit aside, what are the separations now-a-days between Worldpower and Superpower? We were always taught that a Superpower was any country with nuclear capability. At the time that was Russia, Germany, USA, Canada, France, Great Britain, India, Japan, China, Greenland, Iceland, Spain, Sweden, and some others that I can't remember the names of. Do me a favor, don't get old haha.
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I'm already old :)
I guess my understanding of the difference between a Superpower and a World Power lies in a combination of several things; economics, nuclear capabilities, technological advantage, political standing...to name a few. Although the Chinese deservingly claim their share of all these aspects, they're still in a budding, pre-adolescent stage of their standing as a World Power.
When the Soviet Union collapsed, the world's political conventional wisdom proclaimed the U.S. as the "sole Superpower," and took a figurative "step back," almost recoiling with suspicion, even fear, since we all know that power corrupts...and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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What gives a country the ability to deem another one powerful? Actually I think I'm more interested in how that ranking gets determined. Ok to narrow that one down even more, are their government entities in the particular country that can state "these reasons?"
I ask that because we "talk a big game" but in reality have horrible numbers, or so far at this point from the political occurrences (and I admit I don't keep up. IMHO its a bunch of rich old men who are out of touch). I guess this seems more like a pros vs cons about America now. So not going into that, is the picture we present to the world the real happenings(no healthcare is a big one. I have a bachelor's degree, cannot find a job, and have no healthcare. Literally living with a parent just to survive), or is it the fake ideals of say the 1950's? (Every Harry Dick and Jane has a job or is a stay-home parent, and its possible to keep up with the Jones')
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Suit up!
It's not so much one country deeming another powerful, but a concensus of many with multipule factors.
Healthcare is a huge issue...straying from the subject severely...but instead of trying to model our system after many failing countries, why aren't we trying to get to the source of the problem? Litigation, insurance company greed, and a system built by/for/of lawyers, fed by pharmaceutical companies' lobbyists would be a good place to start...
I really am sorry you're struggling financially now. That sucks big time. I have no college degree. I'm a blue collar worker who started working for my current company fresh out of high school 25 years ago and can't imagine what it'd be like to work for another company..let alone beat the pavement looking, trying to sell my skills, despite the reputation I've built across this city.
Though I'm sure I trashed my credibility admitting I've no formal education beyond high school, I built my opinions from a wealth of valuable sources. I spend a considerable amount of time reading...everything. I enjoy opinions counter to my point of view and keep an open mind. Then I research them...in constant search of the truth...whatever that may be.
I sincerely hope you find a good job soon. Best of luck to you sir. When you do, I hope it turns out better than anything you hoped for.
China is not a superpower according to the definition look it up. God has everything to do with it.
no country can match usa military might, they have the biggest economy in the world and generally kick ass to people like you. god bless america
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The biggest economy in the world?
With the highest unemployment rate of any country. Where citizens have to pay for healthcare.
One of the worst educational systems.
Some of the highest crime rates.
Some of the highest murder rates.
The most censored TV and Internet of anywhere else in the world.
Some of the least paid employees, worst job moral, hated government, greedy corporations...
Should I go on?
I was born in Florida. I've also lived in Indiana, Ohio, Texas, Louisiana, California, Washington, Virginia, New York, and Iowa. And they all suck.
So by "People like you" I hope you mean yourself to0. Because I am an American. I'm just not proud of it.
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We do NOT have the highest unemployment rate in the world. Places like Germany and Spain, not to mention Greece, all have over 35% unemployments. Ours hovers, depending on state, between 9-16%. That's hardly the worst.
Can't ONE post on here get all their facts straight? We WON the war of 1812 with the help of a whole buncha tornados, although we didn't win any of Canada. We LOST Vietnam. The winners or losers of these past two wars is highly debatable. Hell we can hardly tell whether the middle east has experienced one or two American driven wars this past decade!
The hair brain who wrote the original article can hardly be a real person. However the rest of the answers, some intelligent, some not, are making false and unintelligent statements here and there! Let's GOOGLE SHIT before you spout off. The worst offender is the idiot who talks about illuminati or the Gelmurag who has a brain the size of a black pea.
Leave then!
Hey, don't hat on television. How I Met Your Mother is a great show. Nice job on other points though.
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Its an okay show, nothing to write home about, though. When is the main character EVER going to get to the moment where he finally tells his kids how he met their mother?! In realtime, this would be the longest story ever told. On top of that, how many people can remember that far into their past with such an attention to details?
How about the fact China practically owns the U.S. because the U.S. owes China over a TRILLION dollars. If I were China, I wouldn't bomb the U.S. either, I'd want my money back. The ol' U.S. of A is currently kissing Chinese ass, wanting more money of course. I think I'm allergic to Americans after reading this...
Just in case you don't believe me, and these are both American sites.
http://www.financialpost.com/news/owes+China+third+more+than+thought/4365015/story.html
and
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/03/01/134159785/the-u-s-owes-china-1-2-trillion
There aren't really any other examples of the us losing a war, particularly a 'declared' war.
There are quite a few examples of wars the US hasn't won though (as opposed to lost). Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and of course the drug war. Some more arguable than others.
they have actually won over half their wars, dumbass