Religion?
So you are speaking of Islamic terrorism as well?
I dearly hope so, because for some (valid fearful) reason, when people speak of 'religion' they forget about that atrocities that have happened in the name of their belief in 'God'.
When they asked terrorists why they would want to kill so many innocent people, the answer was because they love Allah, and couldn't wait to get their virgins etc after death. (in the case of failed suicide bombers)
If these teachings of 'religion' were instilled by their own parents (of which they ARE) is that ok? I mean its all in the name of their good religious beliefs!
Religion IS bad, not just for extremists (ie fanatical religious believers). Because it removes responsibility even guilt (you may call sin) And misplaces it with judgement and unfounded fears.
A common example is when you hear of PARENTS who allow their children to die because they didn't use modern medicine or medical practices.
Or a child is told not to associate with an atheist, although the other way around, the child atheist has no concerns for being friends with the religious believer (except hoping the silly believer actually wakes up one day)
There are trillions of horror examples I could provide, all stemmed from a parent who has allowed a child to follow the holly book belief system. Do note, no 'God' recited the entire bible to a man (or men rather) to write down. Unless you think some crazy man heard voices without anyone being there for months possibly years. I mean you do understand this is a known mental condition. God did not write the Bible (or Qur'an) because 1. Men wrote it, we already know that. 2. There is no god, since 'religious' people have never provided ANY fact or anything, not even one prayer answered EVER!
To say that "there is nothing wrong with following the true teachings of religion" is obviously incorrect. Christians DO bad things, some hate homosexuals (note this is now accepted by your 'society' you mentioned) Some kill or die in the name of their nonsense religion. The list goes on and on, Sexual abuse of minors! Islamic girl genital mutilation! Christian signs everywhere telling children they might go to hell? I mean I could write pages and pages, its nearly never ending.
IF you are referencing those 'Christians' (only) who are not so fanatical (ie don't follow the bible properly) Then as long as they don't impose any of their unfounded beliefs onto me or others (including their own children) then let them live in fairy tale land, it THEIR life they want to waste. But its NOT their right to waste their children's life.
I've always said keep religion away from children, once they have studied science and evolution (in school) and finally turn 18 or 21, THEN throw them a bible. I'm positive they'll get a good laugh out of it (I note some still revert to unfounded belief as adults, but at least the children are safe).
I think it was Richard Dawkins who once said that crimes committed in the name of religion, should be charged twice. Once for the crime, and another for belief in this absurdity that is against our own 'society' modern understandings.
I am talking about my religion, the one that has a Bible. We certainly do not and have not done atrocities in the name of God.
That is their view. I don’t support killing innocent people as I have been brought up in a religion which has nothing to do with violence.
You are talking about Islam, and I am not. There are more religions on this planet and you are basing your thoughts about the rest based on the teachings of one.
They were instilled by their own parents and what they do is wholly up to them. I don’t support such doings but it is not like I can stop such things from happening.
They are not unfounded fears. They are fears which are there for a reason, of course for those who understand. Why should the religious child be a friend with an atheist when the atheist kid wishes such things for their so called friend? This is a two way street.
Men did write the Bible. Facts are there for everyone who has at least a little bit of love left in their hearts. ‘...not even one prayer answered EVER?’ Really? God has answered my prayers and prayers of many.
Christians do bad things. I am aware of that. I am sure that we all know that we have (not just Christians) done bad things. Towards becoming a more religious person one does bad things, and fights for betterment of his or her soul by overcoming all the hurdles that come their way.
Taking the Bible non-literally does not make you any less of a Christian. It is none of your business what parents teach their own children. What is wrong with living in fairy tale land? It is not a waste of life :) they are bringing up their kids the way they should be – teaching them everything that is good and the way it was intended to be by God
Yeah, let them study what you want them to study. How surprising. What is there to laugh about in the Bible?
Religious belief would have to be the most shameful thing in our present world.
This includes that contradictory bible and all its magic shows that some people actually think were real.
Jesus's Mum was a virgin? Because she was impregnated by god? I mean this is absolutely ludicrous Lol.
The world needs to SHAME all religions. Start with the prophet Allah, as he's the biggest joke of them all. Then move on to Jesus the LIAR, then lets all point our fingers at this pathetic idea of god (the bible and churches will do) and say out loud, what a shame it is that others shamefully teach their children about this laughable rubbish you call religion.
More public signs required to help children not fear fairy tales
Man made god in his own image.
Religious Ridiculous
Religion > Shame shame shame, for believing its true.
I can help write these signs if you like. They are needed.
Would have to be, but is not. There weren’t any magic shows. Religion has nothing to do with magic.
She was :D
The world can shame religions all it wants. You don’t believe in Jesus but you call him a liar. Ohhh. It is sad that you feel such hate. Religion is not rubbish.
‘...help’ Right
That is such a selfish and blind act; super ignorant too.
By the way, of course a man called Jesus was alive back then.
In the Middle East (where all this Christianity begun of course) 'Jesus' was and is still, a very common name, like John is here.
I note that atheists are far less ignorant than blind faith Christians are of the bible crazy stories.
I do find it interesting (and common) that religious folk want to use key words like selfish and blind and ignorant, when these words perfectly describe the religious (all beliefs) false faiths in fairy tales.
Since the topic seems to have moved towards abuse (thanks Marisol!) I'll hold back saying more idiocies of the bible (and Qur'an) religious belief hypocrisies (ie these holy books are just rubbish from start to end)
Since most religious people think I'm going to be burning in Hell (what the hell is that jesus Fing christ false fear sh#t?) Unless of course I repent my sins (I hereby state that I will NEVER love this human called jesus as 1. He's dead anyway and 2. I'm not gay, but obviously he was) EVER ever ever ever ever EVER. Even after I'm dead, since I'll be dead!
WAKE UP religos, there is no god and there never was.
People of sense and reason, we need to SHAME all religion publicly and literally laugh them out of society.
Should parents teach their children religion? You've got to be joking? Shame on all religious people for abusing their own children with lies.
By the way, religion has caused more harm in our world than anything else. So I say to you, stop harming me and the world's children. Shame on you.
Never say never. How can you say such a disgusting thing?
Shame us all you want. Abusing with lies? Let’s talk about lies which children are growing up in these days.
Bad people have caused more harm in our world than anything else. How am I harming you? Should I say that you are doing the same to me? I feel no shame because there is no reason for me to feel any in this case.
Yes you can believe in what you want, unless of course that belief is imposed upon others who do not have all the facts as yet (ie children)
Never is not such a bad word.
I say never in my lifetime (or obviously after death) Quite obviously for the last 2000 (and say a thousand years before that too) there has been no proof ever provided as to why anyone would believe in this fictional god figure. I've said this before, there is zero evidence of god existing. I therefore expect that in the next few decades that this proof of god won't be coming either. Especially since 'knowledge' is frowned upon even by the bible. (I can get the quote if you like, its about don't question just have blind faith)
What lies (other than unfounded religion as I just confirmed) are children learning these days exactly? Finding a planet other than Earth that can sustain life? Is that a lie? That our world will one day (in about 5 or so billion years) be gone? Is that a lie? That people (humans) have been here in this 13.7 BILLION universe life cycle for only 200,000 years, is THAT a lie?
I would love to know what science facts that children are thankfully taught these days, that you think is a lie.
Obviously Christianity is, just ask the Muslims! Its certainly not proven, on the contrary its proven that its the most unlikely scenarios of them all that god exists. And this is why religion has been removed from being forced onto children in main stream public schooling. If you feel children DO require these fairy tale teachings, PLEASE show me the reason why. Oh and don't say morals, I don't want to write a book back to you on how religion is anti-moralistic with evidence to show that.
The 'shame' is when people PUSH their unfounded lies onto others, especially children. For our society (ie in present school) to then try to explain the real science of the universe can sometimes be difficult for the children, and cause them to revert further into their made up fairy tale, usually out of fear alone. (oh and obviously ignorance)
I have no idea why you could hold any normal reasonable mind ability and then try to protect the foolish ways of out dated religion? It is the most mind boggling and 'bad' poor mindset that I can only attribute to brainwashing, likely originally provided by your parents!
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Religion?
So you are speaking of Islamic terrorism as well?
I dearly hope so, because for some (valid fearful) reason, when people speak of 'religion' they forget about that atrocities that have happened in the name of their belief in 'God'.
When they asked terrorists why they would want to kill so many innocent people, the answer was because they love Allah, and couldn't wait to get their virgins etc after death. (in the case of failed suicide bombers)
If these teachings of 'religion' were instilled by their own parents (of which they ARE) is that ok? I mean its all in the name of their good religious beliefs!
Religion IS bad, not just for extremists (ie fanatical religious believers). Because it removes responsibility even guilt (you may call sin) And misplaces it with judgement and unfounded fears.
A common example is when you hear of PARENTS who allow their children to die because they didn't use modern medicine or medical practices.
Or a child is told not to associate with an atheist, although the other way around, the child atheist has no concerns for being friends with the religious believer (except hoping the silly believer actually wakes up one day)
There are trillions of horror examples I could provide, all stemmed from a parent who has allowed a child to follow the holly book belief system. Do note, no 'God' recited the entire bible to a man (or men rather) to write down. Unless you think some crazy man heard voices without anyone being there for months possibly years. I mean you do understand this is a known mental condition. God did not write the Bible (or Qur'an) because 1. Men wrote it, we already know that. 2. There is no god, since 'religious' people have never provided ANY fact or anything, not even one prayer answered EVER!
To say that "there is nothing wrong with following the true teachings of religion" is obviously incorrect. Christians DO bad things, some hate homosexuals (note this is now accepted by your 'society' you mentioned) Some kill or die in the name of their nonsense religion. The list goes on and on, Sexual abuse of minors! Islamic girl genital mutilation! Christian signs everywhere telling children they might go to hell? I mean I could write pages and pages, its nearly never ending.
IF you are referencing those 'Christians' (only) who are not so fanatical (ie don't follow the bible properly) Then as long as they don't impose any of their unfounded beliefs onto me or others (including their own children) then let them live in fairy tale land, it THEIR life they want to waste. But its NOT their right to waste their children's life.
I've always said keep religion away from children, once they have studied science and evolution (in school) and finally turn 18 or 21, THEN throw them a bible. I'm positive they'll get a good laugh out of it (I note some still revert to unfounded belief as adults, but at least the children are safe).
I think it was Richard Dawkins who once said that crimes committed in the name of religion, should be charged twice. Once for the crime, and another for belief in this absurdity that is against our own 'society' modern understandings.
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I am talking about my religion, the one that has a Bible. We certainly do not and have not done atrocities in the name of God.
That is their view. I don’t support killing innocent people as I have been brought up in a religion which has nothing to do with violence.
You are talking about Islam, and I am not. There are more religions on this planet and you are basing your thoughts about the rest based on the teachings of one.
They were instilled by their own parents and what they do is wholly up to them. I don’t support such doings but it is not like I can stop such things from happening.
They are not unfounded fears. They are fears which are there for a reason, of course for those who understand. Why should the religious child be a friend with an atheist when the atheist kid wishes such things for their so called friend? This is a two way street.
Men did write the Bible. Facts are there for everyone who has at least a little bit of love left in their hearts. ‘...not even one prayer answered EVER?’ Really? God has answered my prayers and prayers of many.
Christians do bad things. I am aware of that. I am sure that we all know that we have (not just Christians) done bad things. Towards becoming a more religious person one does bad things, and fights for betterment of his or her soul by overcoming all the hurdles that come their way.
Taking the Bible non-literally does not make you any less of a Christian. It is none of your business what parents teach their own children. What is wrong with living in fairy tale land? It is not a waste of life :) they are bringing up their kids the way they should be – teaching them everything that is good and the way it was intended to be by God
Yeah, let them study what you want them to study. How surprising. What is there to laugh about in the Bible?
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Religious belief would have to be the most shameful thing in our present world.
This includes that contradictory bible and all its magic shows that some people actually think were real.
Jesus's Mum was a virgin? Because she was impregnated by god? I mean this is absolutely ludicrous Lol.
The world needs to SHAME all religions. Start with the prophet Allah, as he's the biggest joke of them all. Then move on to Jesus the LIAR, then lets all point our fingers at this pathetic idea of god (the bible and churches will do) and say out loud, what a shame it is that others shamefully teach their children about this laughable rubbish you call religion.
More public signs required to help children not fear fairy tales
Man made god in his own image.
Religious Ridiculous
Religion > Shame shame shame, for believing its true.
I can help write these signs if you like. They are needed.
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Would have to be, but is not. There weren’t any magic shows. Religion has nothing to do with magic.
She was :D
The world can shame religions all it wants. You don’t believe in Jesus but you call him a liar. Ohhh. It is sad that you feel such hate. Religion is not rubbish.
‘...help’ Right
That is such a selfish and blind act; super ignorant too.
Go ahead. It won’t hurt me.
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I think its more disgust than hate.
By the way, of course a man called Jesus was alive back then.
In the Middle East (where all this Christianity begun of course) 'Jesus' was and is still, a very common name, like John is here.
I note that atheists are far less ignorant than blind faith Christians are of the bible crazy stories.
I do find it interesting (and common) that religious folk want to use key words like selfish and blind and ignorant, when these words perfectly describe the religious (all beliefs) false faiths in fairy tales.
Since the topic seems to have moved towards abuse (thanks Marisol!) I'll hold back saying more idiocies of the bible (and Qur'an) religious belief hypocrisies (ie these holy books are just rubbish from start to end)
Since most religious people think I'm going to be burning in Hell (what the hell is that jesus Fing christ false fear sh#t?) Unless of course I repent my sins (I hereby state that I will NEVER love this human called jesus as 1. He's dead anyway and 2. I'm not gay, but obviously he was) EVER ever ever ever ever EVER. Even after I'm dead, since I'll be dead!
WAKE UP religos, there is no god and there never was.
People of sense and reason, we need to SHAME all religion publicly and literally laugh them out of society.
Should parents teach their children religion? You've got to be joking? Shame on all religious people for abusing their own children with lies.
By the way, religion has caused more harm in our world than anything else. So I say to you, stop harming me and the world's children. Shame on you.
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Hmmm. One believes what one wants to believe.
You can say what you want.
Never say never. How can you say such a disgusting thing?
Shame us all you want. Abusing with lies? Let’s talk about lies which children are growing up in these days.
Bad people have caused more harm in our world than anything else. How am I harming you? Should I say that you are doing the same to me? I feel no shame because there is no reason for me to feel any in this case.
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Yes you can believe in what you want, unless of course that belief is imposed upon others who do not have all the facts as yet (ie children)
Never is not such a bad word.
I say never in my lifetime (or obviously after death) Quite obviously for the last 2000 (and say a thousand years before that too) there has been no proof ever provided as to why anyone would believe in this fictional god figure. I've said this before, there is zero evidence of god existing. I therefore expect that in the next few decades that this proof of god won't be coming either. Especially since 'knowledge' is frowned upon even by the bible. (I can get the quote if you like, its about don't question just have blind faith)
What lies (other than unfounded religion as I just confirmed) are children learning these days exactly? Finding a planet other than Earth that can sustain life? Is that a lie? That our world will one day (in about 5 or so billion years) be gone? Is that a lie? That people (humans) have been here in this 13.7 BILLION universe life cycle for only 200,000 years, is THAT a lie?
I would love to know what science facts that children are thankfully taught these days, that you think is a lie.
Obviously Christianity is, just ask the Muslims! Its certainly not proven, on the contrary its proven that its the most unlikely scenarios of them all that god exists. And this is why religion has been removed from being forced onto children in main stream public schooling. If you feel children DO require these fairy tale teachings, PLEASE show me the reason why. Oh and don't say morals, I don't want to write a book back to you on how religion is anti-moralistic with evidence to show that.
The 'shame' is when people PUSH their unfounded lies onto others, especially children. For our society (ie in present school) to then try to explain the real science of the universe can sometimes be difficult for the children, and cause them to revert further into their made up fairy tale, usually out of fear alone. (oh and obviously ignorance)
I have no idea why you could hold any normal reasonable mind ability and then try to protect the foolish ways of out dated religion? It is the most mind boggling and 'bad' poor mindset that I can only attribute to brainwashing, likely originally provided by your parents!