You need a waiting period to conduct a comprehensive background check, so it’s the same issue.
Any responsible gun owner understands that nobody should walk into a Walmart, show proof of age, answer 6-7 lame questions that are easily falsified, have a minimum wage clerk run your name through NCIC, and walk out with an AR15 within 15 minutes.
Granted that background checks need to be hardened, which would be helped by a waiting period.
While you may not see it as a big problem, the existing issue can be reduced with some common sense that doesn’t infringe on the 2nd amendment at all.
You want a gun, wave your HIPA rights for a start. You want a gun, your ownership limit is 10 long guns and 3 sidearms (unless you are a federally licensed collector/dealer).
Speak for yourself.
Not all responsible gun owners agree with you.
Teen drivers kill more people every year in the US than ar15's. Plus, Walmart doesn't sell AR15's.
You just said you want people to give up rights.
Where the hell do you come up with your magic numbers? Like 9 or 11 is going to matter?
I suppose to avoid penile cancer one could cut off one's penis as well.
I made those examples up. I didn’t say “all”, I said “any responsible”, but keep coming back with your own interpretations.
Or how about this: the 2nd amendment is supposed federal law that each state interprets as they see fit, even with challenges to the Supreme Court on both sides of the argument. Let’s create federal gun laws that are enforced equally by every state. How is a waiting period with background checks going to hurt any legal law abiding citizen?
Who the hell needs more than 10 long guns or 3 pistols anyway, for what?
And in your driving example cars are registered and those teens are supposedly licensed, but those same teens can get guns without jack training or a gun ownership license. It makes zero sense.
JSYK I’m a gun owner.
You said "any responsible" gun owner. Implying that one is not a responsible gun owner if they disagree.
What if I'm a rancher or farmer and I need a gun to protect my livestock from predators that have recently come in the area? One could come up plenty of arguments where a waiting period would cost in terms of safety or profits.
If you want to drag the fed gov into action don't be disappointed if they decide your state has to accept concealed carry permits from other states with little or no training. As for teen drivers...even with licensing they kill about 4500 people a year. If we are genuinely interested in saving lives we would increase the minimum age of drivers license to 21. I am not against raising the minimum age of a gun purchase to 18. Some states have no minimum at all. But again that becomes a states rights issue.
Nobody buys or owns a ranch without having means to protect livestock and most use dogs anyway.
If there were fed intervention CC would require training and it would be the law if the land to carry, and not up to individual states who vary so greatly it’s absurd. Yet a farm kid who gets a license at 14 can drive in NYC where the driving age is 18. The outcome isn’t going to be good.
I’m not assuming anything. We’re having a discussion on the hypothetical by typing over the internet which isn’t optimum to have an actual discussion.
I get your points, but you don’t get mine or I’m doing a bad job.
IIN to think people should stop blaming guns?
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You need a waiting period to conduct a comprehensive background check, so it’s the same issue.
Any responsible gun owner understands that nobody should walk into a Walmart, show proof of age, answer 6-7 lame questions that are easily falsified, have a minimum wage clerk run your name through NCIC, and walk out with an AR15 within 15 minutes.
Granted that background checks need to be hardened, which would be helped by a waiting period.
While you may not see it as a big problem, the existing issue can be reduced with some common sense that doesn’t infringe on the 2nd amendment at all.
You want a gun, wave your HIPA rights for a start. You want a gun, your ownership limit is 10 long guns and 3 sidearms (unless you are a federally licensed collector/dealer).
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Speak for yourself.
Not all responsible gun owners agree with you.
Teen drivers kill more people every year in the US than ar15's. Plus, Walmart doesn't sell AR15's.
You just said you want people to give up rights.
Where the hell do you come up with your magic numbers? Like 9 or 11 is going to matter?
I suppose to avoid penile cancer one could cut off one's penis as well.
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I made those examples up. I didn’t say “all”, I said “any responsible”, but keep coming back with your own interpretations.
Or how about this: the 2nd amendment is supposed federal law that each state interprets as they see fit, even with challenges to the Supreme Court on both sides of the argument. Let’s create federal gun laws that are enforced equally by every state. How is a waiting period with background checks going to hurt any legal law abiding citizen?
Who the hell needs more than 10 long guns or 3 pistols anyway, for what?
And in your driving example cars are registered and those teens are supposedly licensed, but those same teens can get guns without jack training or a gun ownership license. It makes zero sense.
JSYK I’m a gun owner.
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You said "any responsible" gun owner. Implying that one is not a responsible gun owner if they disagree.
What if I'm a rancher or farmer and I need a gun to protect my livestock from predators that have recently come in the area? One could come up plenty of arguments where a waiting period would cost in terms of safety or profits.
If you want to drag the fed gov into action don't be disappointed if they decide your state has to accept concealed carry permits from other states with little or no training. As for teen drivers...even with licensing they kill about 4500 people a year. If we are genuinely interested in saving lives we would increase the minimum age of drivers license to 21. I am not against raising the minimum age of a gun purchase to 18. Some states have no minimum at all. But again that becomes a states rights issue.
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Nobody buys or owns a ranch without having means to protect livestock and most use dogs anyway.
If there were fed intervention CC would require training and it would be the law if the land to carry, and not up to individual states who vary so greatly it’s absurd. Yet a farm kid who gets a license at 14 can drive in NYC where the driving age is 18. The outcome isn’t going to be good.
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You make far too many assumptions.
Some may refer to it as magical thinking.
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I’m not assuming anything. We’re having a discussion on the hypothetical by typing over the internet which isn’t optimum to have an actual discussion.
I get your points, but you don’t get mine or I’m doing a bad job.