Is it normal to think people should stop blaming guns?

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A gun can't just get up and shoot someone. A person has to pull the trigger him or herself. Why can't people admit that and fight the real cause of gun violence: bad parenting? It's not like a child automatically wakes up one day and says "You know, I'd like to go shoot someone." Usually, there's a reason why a child would grow up to harm and kill others. Yeah, a child can be born mentally ill but that isn't the majority.

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  • kupokupo
    5 years ago

    He's not worth it gurl, he's not worth it!

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  • lonewolf1253
    5 years ago

    It's a double edged sword. Guns are as American as apple pie and guns are here to stay from what I can see. I own many guns and would not give them up if ordered to do so.
    On the other hand, sure, the more guns you have in the population, the more people will be killed by them as opposed to a country with strict gun laws. Simple mathematics. The problem as I see it is the deterioration of family values in the U.S. and lack of treatment for mental health. They emptied the mental hospitals in the early seventies. Now those people roam the streets or are in prison. And most will eventually get out. So I don't really see a solution. I can only see it getting worse.
    That being said, they can have my guns. When they pry them from my cold, dead hands.

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  • Nickvey
    5 years ago

    why should i disarm when USA has 15,000 H-bombs. makes no fucking sense to me. ask a liberal why they fears guns and not H-bombs

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    • factcheck
      5 years ago

      Right...because liberals are well known for their love of bombs and wars.

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      • Nickvey
        5 years ago

        population reduction, abortion , , they love war

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  • [Old Memory]
    5 years ago

    A study came out yesterday indicating 64% of recent mass shooters have a history of mental illness or displayed signs of mental illness or instability.
    From 1900-2017 (185 mass shootings) the number is 59%.
    A significant amount of mental illness is attributed to physical chemical imbalances, unless “bad parenting” causes that your statement is wrong.
    Why don’t we have a longer waiting period and make sure the purchaser is mentally healthy before we let them buy a semiautomatic in a convenience store along with their microwaved burrito. Waiting a week or 10 days is not going to inconvenience anyone.
    In the USA people wait weeks, sometimes months between getting their driving permit and actual license. Nobody needs a gun within minutes of deciding to buy one.

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    • Dustyair
      5 years ago

      Did your so called study mention all the black males who love to shoot each in cities like Chicago, LA, Baltimore NY and on and on?

      Mass shootings as you call them come nowhere close to those numbers, not that I mind, I'll donate free ammo to them as long as they keep in the "hood".

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      • [Old Memory]
        5 years ago

        That’s a different problem, with illegal guns. Mostly guns handed out at gun shows to straw man buyers - with no waiting period.
        So while you went off topic, I’m focusing on the mental illness issue the OP actually mentions, combined with the lack of a waiting period tied to background checks.
        If you're giving out free ammo, I’m low on 9mm, 223, 5.56, and 12 gauge slugs. Where do I pick it up? You shouldn’t have ammo anyway, you may deflate one of your friends.

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        • CozmoWank
          5 years ago

          I don't think a waiting period would have made a bit of difference in recent mass shootings. None of them went out and bought a gun on a whim and turned around & committed their atrocity.

          The whole issue of gun violence is overblown and exploited by fearmongers. Since 2006, USA TODAY has tracked a total of 358 mass killings that have claimed the lives of 1,883 people. The cases include shootings, stabbings, fires and blunt-force attacks, among others, in 45 states and the District of Columbia.

          This year 2120 men will be diagnosed with penile cancer in the US. So you have a greater chance of being diagnosed with penile cancer than to be killed in a mass shooting.

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          • [Old Memory]
            5 years ago

            Waiting period tied to background checks would make a difference. The kid in Florida had known problems, so did the guy in Las Vegas. The Vegas background check should have flagged that he already had an arsenal and that should have triggered a visit from the ATF.
            This is about common sense measures to enforce existing laws. Tell any man how to avoid penile cancer and I’m sure most would follow instructions.

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            • CozmoWank
              5 years ago

              Again, a waiting period wouldn't have made a bit of difference in either case. Background checks and waiting periods are two separate issues. Doesn't seem like much common sense if the problem really isn't as big of an problem as portrayed.

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        • Dustyair
          5 years ago

          HAhaha, you got me good :)

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  • Handyman
    5 years ago

    It is so easy, make murder unlawful.

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    • CozmoWank
      5 years ago

      Maybe make bigger Gun Free Zone signs just in case.

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      • curious-bunny
        5 years ago

        Na just remove them entirely. Criminals don't care about signs or laws

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        • CozmoWank
          5 years ago

          They would if the signs were brightly colored and had pictures of unicorns fucking.

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  • Pussy_Destroyer_69
    5 years ago

    It's cultural problem. I don't know the legislation so maybe they could improve it. Have you been in Switzerland? They have a shitload of guns there because they have mandatory military service and every guy has to buy their own one. How many mass shootings are there?

    At the end of the day gun laws are only going to worsen the problem. How many guns are already in circulation? They are willingly losing the tracks of thousands of guns only to appease the mobs. What's going to happen to all the people that loses their job by reaction? It's a really big industry. All that people without jobs=more marginality=more gun crime.

    The solution is to help these people. A lot of them have traumas and mental illnesses. The polarizing situation doesen't help either. Pull your shit together and this should not happen.

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    • abnormoth
      5 years ago

      Assault weapons, which are the ones used in mass shootings, are banned in Switzerland.

      Switzerland also has much stricter regulations about open-carrying.

      It has been repeatedly confirmed that people with mental illness are more likely to be victims of violence rather than perpetrators.

      There are higher rates of mental illness in people of color, yet most mass shooters are white.

      Depending on the study, women either have higher or equal rates of mental illness as men, yet nearly all mass shooters are men.

      Mental illness is complex and diverse, and most have little to no correlation to violent behavior. Grouping together disorders with no relation to each other serves for an empty statement. Even if mental illness was the cause of these problems, there will never be a way to stop undiagnosed people or people who have yet to develop a disorder from buying guns. Can we eliminate mental illness? Almost certainly not. Can we 100% of the time know who is going to be a mass shooter? Unlikely. Could people shoot others if they didn't have guns? No.

      You cannot conveniently ignore factors which do not fit your narrative.

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      • Handyman
        5 years ago

        Would people use knives or vehicles if they didn't have guns? Yes.

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        • factcheck
          5 years ago

          What kind of knife can kill 58 people and injure 500 others from 1500 feet away?

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          • [Old Memory]
            5 years ago

            A huge-ass set of shuriken knives and some good training.

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          • Handyman
            5 years ago

            One fired from a big air gun, or dropped from a hot air balloon, or fitted to a remote control goody. Or find the place where this happened.

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      • Checkmate_King
        5 years ago

        Molon labe, mofo

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      • Pussy_Destroyer_69
        5 years ago

        -Assault weapons are banned in the USA(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban)
        -It looks like a lot of mass shooters have mental illnesses. I don't know tho because i don't have any numbers about that. The important thing is that most of them are fucked in the head. There's also Asians and mixed in there.
        -Women don't have testosterone, which makes them less aggressive. It could also be a cultural thing. Or just maybe societies aren't as harsh to mentally handicapped women. Being speculative there.
        -I not against stricter regulations
        A theme i haven't touched in other posts is how USA has a real problem with terrorism. All these kids are no different of an Al-Qaeda sleeping cell. You would consider that a mental illness? It's just retribution for some of them.

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        • abnormoth
          5 years ago

          As it states on the Wikipedia page you linked me to, that ban expired on September 13, 2004.

          Women do have testosterone, congrats on failing highschool biology.

          I'm not going to respond the the rest because you are obviously a troll, there is no way anyone could be this stupid.

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          • Pussy_Destroyer_69
            5 years ago

            Why so aggressive? What you are doing in a discussion site if you don't want to discuss? I swear I'm not trolling (at least not all the time lol). You were right about the first one. I was too quick about that one. The second one was figurative speech. Woman have testosterone and man estrogen. We also have plutonium in our bodies but we aren't poisoned.

            Look I'm here to learn. It was complicated to escape of all the eco chambers and all of that shait just to face people that only want to insult and virtue signalling. So sorry if I've come with that tone or if I seemed malicious.

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            • kupokupo
              5 years ago

              What is this civility I'm witnessing on my internet? Who are you and what have you done with Pussy_Destroyer_69?

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          • Checkmate_King
            5 years ago

            when you name call, you concede the debate. Molon Labe

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  • Dustyair
    5 years ago

    The feminist/liberal establishment is slowly indoctrinating people into a constant state of contempt, and malice for each other. One good example is how Obama, and his satanic minions created an atmosphere of hate for white people. It has been extremely toxic, and has further divided our nation, it has perpetuated hate, tension, and violent terrorism carried out by terrorist groups like BLM.

    But again, this is only one of many examples of the hate spread by feminist/marxists such as Obama the muslim.

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  • lonewolf1253
    5 years ago

    I don't have time to explain it. Study American history if you really want to know.

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  • clownspiracy
    5 years ago

    Why do Americans get so fucking defensive over a literal weapon? It's so embarrassing honestly... Since ya'll are too fucking stubborn to do shit then expect nothing but school shootings to remain rampant in the U.S. That's what the rest of the world recognizes y'all for.

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  • clownspiracy
    5 years ago

    guns were quite literally designed for the purpose of hunting/killing but go off i guess

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  • kupokupo
    5 years ago

    You got your weave on backwards girl, lemme fix you...

    Ok, now you hold me back! *throws handbag*

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  • [Old Memory]
    5 years ago

    There's a gun in one of my parent's drawers. I found it, and the ammo, which were meant to be hidden.

    They don't know that I know, but the only thing I've seriously thought about shooting with it is myself.

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  • factcheck
    5 years ago

    I stopped reading after the first paragraph because it has no basis in reality. It's crystal clear at this point that he wasn't the victim of bullying, he was the bully and he snapped when people stood up to him. He was the reason every environment he was in was toxic. He is the toxic one, not the people around him.

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    • kupokupo
      5 years ago

      The reality people live in their heads can be very different from the reality that other people see. No one creates toxicity just for fun.

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  • Murun
    5 years ago

    It's a cultural problem in the USA. It's a young country which was founded on guns so they're lying around people's houses as casually as Europeans might have a vacuum cleaner or lawnmower. With guns so entrenched in people's domestic lives there are bound to be tragedies a-plenty, as indeed there regularly are. It won't be an easy job changing people's mindset, but it needs to be done. I suppose some psychological work will be essential, not just law changes. The kind of approach that's gradually changed public views against tobacco smoking or drink-driving.

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  • AnonimeNr.134503
    5 years ago

    Even if you disagree that people should stop blaming guns, aren't we supposed to vote is it normal for him to /think/ so?

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