Is it normal to sympathise with the "villians" of history. hitler, lenin,gadafi

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More and more i find that throughout history i tend to "go" for the bad guys. Hitler/Japan, USSR, Libya. About ww2 i admired the tactics and strageies of the Nazis. I do not admire the Holocaust, that was pointless and cruel. However i may find the idea of discrimation based on race stupid but i support eugenics as a whole. I admire their military tactics. A whole lot of things.
In the cold war i always try to justify the things that USSR did. The flip side to the story. I'm fairly sure this is a reaction to american dominated history books and film industry. I'm sick of seeing the good guys always win despite the odds. I want to see reality.

Which brings me to my final point, Libya. I'm getting really sick of all the "well done" news reports about the airstrikes in Libya. Because this is Illegal. What is happening there isn't a slaughter of civilians, a genocide or a campaign of terror. it is the long term LEGITIMATE goverment fighting a civil war. Both sides are armed, both sides placed their bases inside civilian population centres. SO WHY IS GADAFI the bad guy. Oh thats right because he isn't in favour of democracy. Well boo-fucking who. The rule of the world is the person with the biggest and most guns wins. Another thing when the UN declared a "No-fly" zone over Libya.
1:Why do they have authority of a soverign intact nation?
2:After shooting down anything flying why are we still attacking?
3:How does attacking all ground forces to and i quote "eliminate the libya military as a fighting force" constiute enforcing a no-fly zone? First the planes, then the bases, then the supply centres, then the command centres, now all military targets. THIS ISN"T WHAT THE UN SANCTIONED.

Ok sorry i get a little angry talking about this. So is it normal to sympathise with the people we have been continually taught to hate and despise?

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[Old Memory]

13 years ago

i know next to nothing about world politics but i do know that there is always two sides to every story, sometimes many sides

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DefinitelyNotNormal89

13 years ago

People are entitled to their own opinion- the second world war is my guilty pleasure, I absolutely love reading about it. I can easily get lost in the topic, I know a little too much about it and even though I do not support the Nazi's what so ever I can kind of see where they were coming from, but they were wrong and they got everything they deserved.
I understand what you are saying about admiring their tactics, tactic wise Hitler was a genius but do you even know about eugenics?!?!?!
You find discriminating a race stupid but discriminating homosexuals, the disabled, the weak and so on completely okay?! Are you crazy?!

And your part about Libya made me a little too angry to comment- read about Gadafi before you say he's not the bad guy.

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Tortugah

13 years ago

Everyone has virtues and flaws. These people you mention have great virtues and terrible flaws. It would be unwise to blindly hate them for their flaws without appreciating and learning from their virtues. I believe it is advisable to analyze them as people, not villains, and take in the good things, leave out the bad things.

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squirrelgirl

13 years ago

You said you support eugenics. You know what? When my mom was pregnant with me, I tested positive for Down's Syndrome and she was given the option to have an abortion. If my mom supported eugenics like you, I wouldn't be here today.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, people like you make me sick to my stomach.

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- BoredGuy
  
  13 years ago
  
  Interesting, you got down syndrome?
  
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- dappled
  
  13 years ago
  
  Well said, and it mirrors what I was going to say too. I'm not Jewish but there are two other factors from my past that would have had the Nazi party either sterilise me or, more likely, execute me.
  
  That's two of us your policy would have got rid of. Anyone else you want to see executed simply for being themself?
  
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  - anonomy
    
    13 years ago
    
    Don't be so harsh. It's just an opinion, and beyond that I don't think he's saying we should get rid of anyone, though I would like some specification about what you (author) mean when you say eugenics. I'm not really for genetic manipulation or abortion because of genetics, but I see genetic manipulation personally as more harmless. Anyways. I think the point he's trying to make is that he/she tries to see beyond the projected concept of good or evil on people. And I say while that's not normal as in 'average' I think it's a good abnormal. It means you're inciteful and that you don't blindly follow the crowd. I'm jewish (Technically) so I'd be killed by hitler, but I can understand, and support the concept of looking beyond the demonization of people, even when they are really monsters.
    
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- King_Felix_IV
  
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  Pro-life all the way! My mother was also advised to abort me, for different reasons though. From what I've seen of your posts on this site, I don't think you can possibly have down's syndrome. People with Down's are simple and friendly, but most of them are incapable of composing structured and well written sentences.
  If you do have Down's syndrome, then 90% of the users on this site are practically brain-dead.
  
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[Old Memory]

13 years ago

When you were listing some "villians", you forgot : Hitler/Japan/Italy. They were a part of it too. Japans fuckin awesome though. :)

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Anonymous Post Author

13 years ago

Ok first i should clarify, i forgot that gays were included in that. Sorry to all homosexuals out there, its not a defect and shouldn't be treated as such.

To the person with downs sydrome yeah sorry, but it is for the betterment of the species.

All i'm saying is you have to think about it in the long run. Sure for this generation it would be horrible and people would be upset and outraged. But next generation and the one after that nobody would suffer from heridarty cripiling illnesses. If you can remove your emotions for a second its the logical and merciful way to go.

To takeiteasy12 Thanks, i know there are a few people out there who think the way we do. Its nice to here a friendly voice amongst the sea of knee-jerk reactors.

To all and sundry I am not a Neo-Nazi, i do not think that aryans are superior. I am just as horrified my the holocaust as anyone else. In fact i'm jewish, so i'm quailified to talk about this. I just think that because of the horrendusly evil acts of the Nazis the good work Hitler did was over shadowed. Bet you didn't know that he cut unemployment from 23% to 2% in three years (before the war or the holocaust).

So yeah i'm not saying these people were saints, i'm not saying Hitler didn't do evil thingss. I'm saying you must look beyond sterotype and first impressions to see judge someone accurately. Otherwise how shallow and sheepish are you?

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CountryRoads

13 years ago

Gross.

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takeiteasy12

13 years ago

I AM EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. wow and i thought i was alone everytime i try and explain this to my friends i mess up. But you got it. 1st paragraph 2nd to last sentence is right. Im same way about everything, the Nazis and all. Wow i cant believe this u actually feel the same way?? wow yay!

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j1337

13 years ago

Hitlers plan was very well thought out however the effects were much too horrible

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