I respect your opinions but I was only speaking of my family and my small community of Christians, since we are not the same as the others. There are different branches of it after all such as Anglican.
And I never said it's a Christian thing. I mean we take those things on strongly as our morals too. I never said non Christians don't have these morals.
And I was joking about the HIV I even said its "silly".
I'm not saying if they're were Christians, if people took on the same moral it would then decrease, if you took cheating out. But still, people as a whole have way more one night stands when they're single, then they cheat in a marrige, whether they're Christian or not.
I'm a modern and unique type Christian. Very different from the ones showed in media.
All I do is "respect and love thy neigbour", take communion, and wait till marrige to have sex, and believe in possibilities of something existing until proven false.
Not trying to prove that Christianity is helpful or useful, but personal follow it because it matches the way I like to live in this world.
I only had conflicting feelings with the sex before marriage.
I know he isn't, and my family and community don't lie, they read the bible and let anyone interpret anyway they want. But we teach our children facts unlike other Christians.
Like I said before I don't believe in angles or giants, because science disproves their existance.
We're not like other Christians, we let gays in our church out and open freely. And teach fact and leave other things up to others interpretation.
I feel your still confusing me with the original Christians who are very radical with their own views.
My opinions are based on reasoning and knowledge and if you bring up such things as the Big Bang then I reference my reasoned opinion on facts. The loose word 'opinion' is more suited to those of faith, who have no good reason to believe.
You said: "All I do is "respect and love thy neigbour", take communion, and wait till marrige to have sex, and believe in possibilities of something existing until proven false."
When we reason this, we find that it is not always good to love everyone. We can love humanity and humans, but individual actions of others can cause hate and anger, we don't love our enemies, and we shouldn't either.
As for 'communion' in the religious term, this is where a biscuit or bread is supposedly jesus and wine is his blood (generally speaking). This old fashioned ritual is of Christianity and is without reason, as historians (even of the time, especially of the time) did not mention any Jesus (or other names) of the bible performing miracles. I find it strange that those people who supposedly saw Jesus was able to have belief, BUT these days people can only have faith, as 'god' has decided that you don't need the evidence itself any longer, plus the bible is not followed or re-interpreted and therefore not a reliable source. It is this 'faith' that I find unreasonable.
And when you state 'until proven false', I find this to be your indoctrination speaking, as science does not prove fairies or unicorns or gods false! Science discovers facts and truths. The gumball analogy comes to mind, but I find the court analogy of not guilty, as opposed to innocent, as the best analogies in this (you can look this up). No one can prove anything false BUT we can remove most or all of the unfounded beliefs (like witches, gays being sick, and 'miracles').
You don't like that I relate you to so called fanatical Christians (when I DO relate them all the same).
I don't like you say it's my opinion, when it's your opinion without reason that I reference.
I hear you when you say you are open in your congregation, but you continue to state unreasonable normally 'Christian' rituals and unfounded beliefs. Unless you assume the position of deity only beliefs, then your beliefs in Christianity and throw in Christian lines, shows me you are most definitely of the unfounded Christian faith. I find that wrong with my 'opinion' based on reason and evidence and knowledge. I find you best 'teachings' to children would be to get them to know there are many religions all with incompatible gods, they obviously can't be all right, but they can be all wrong. The best way of learning is to guide them to ask questions and learn for themselves.
I have an opinion you are very close to understanding things such as 'until proven false' is nonsense, including love thy neighbor and communion, let alone your concerns of presently unknown origins, and many other generally Christian things you stated. You are SO close to breaking through these unfounded beliefs it is my 'opinion', you'll one day not have these 'old fashioned' views of the bible (or Quran or Egyptian markings or aboriginal cave drawings or American Indians etc etc etc mythical stories), just due to reasoning out that belief REQUIRES good reason or evidence to have faith in anything, including natural human love for each other.
IIN to question giving up your virginity?
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I respect your opinions but I was only speaking of my family and my small community of Christians, since we are not the same as the others. There are different branches of it after all such as Anglican.
And I never said it's a Christian thing. I mean we take those things on strongly as our morals too. I never said non Christians don't have these morals.
And I was joking about the HIV I even said its "silly".
I'm not saying if they're were Christians, if people took on the same moral it would then decrease, if you took cheating out. But still, people as a whole have way more one night stands when they're single, then they cheat in a marrige, whether they're Christian or not.
I'm a modern and unique type Christian. Very different from the ones showed in media.
All I do is "respect and love thy neigbour", take communion, and wait till marrige to have sex, and believe in possibilities of something existing until proven false.
Not trying to prove that Christianity is helpful or useful, but personal follow it because it matches the way I like to live in this world.
I only had conflicting feelings with the sex before marriage.
I know he isn't, and my family and community don't lie, they read the bible and let anyone interpret anyway they want. But we teach our children facts unlike other Christians.
Like I said before I don't believe in angles or giants, because science disproves their existance.
We're not like other Christians, we let gays in our church out and open freely. And teach fact and leave other things up to others interpretation.
I feel your still confusing me with the original Christians who are very radical with their own views.
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My opinions are based on reasoning and knowledge and if you bring up such things as the Big Bang then I reference my reasoned opinion on facts. The loose word 'opinion' is more suited to those of faith, who have no good reason to believe.
You said: "All I do is "respect and love thy neigbour", take communion, and wait till marrige to have sex, and believe in possibilities of something existing until proven false."
When we reason this, we find that it is not always good to love everyone. We can love humanity and humans, but individual actions of others can cause hate and anger, we don't love our enemies, and we shouldn't either.
As for 'communion' in the religious term, this is where a biscuit or bread is supposedly jesus and wine is his blood (generally speaking). This old fashioned ritual is of Christianity and is without reason, as historians (even of the time, especially of the time) did not mention any Jesus (or other names) of the bible performing miracles. I find it strange that those people who supposedly saw Jesus was able to have belief, BUT these days people can only have faith, as 'god' has decided that you don't need the evidence itself any longer, plus the bible is not followed or re-interpreted and therefore not a reliable source. It is this 'faith' that I find unreasonable.
And when you state 'until proven false', I find this to be your indoctrination speaking, as science does not prove fairies or unicorns or gods false! Science discovers facts and truths. The gumball analogy comes to mind, but I find the court analogy of not guilty, as opposed to innocent, as the best analogies in this (you can look this up). No one can prove anything false BUT we can remove most or all of the unfounded beliefs (like witches, gays being sick, and 'miracles').
You don't like that I relate you to so called fanatical Christians (when I DO relate them all the same).
I don't like you say it's my opinion, when it's your opinion without reason that I reference.
I hear you when you say you are open in your congregation, but you continue to state unreasonable normally 'Christian' rituals and unfounded beliefs. Unless you assume the position of deity only beliefs, then your beliefs in Christianity and throw in Christian lines, shows me you are most definitely of the unfounded Christian faith. I find that wrong with my 'opinion' based on reason and evidence and knowledge. I find you best 'teachings' to children would be to get them to know there are many religions all with incompatible gods, they obviously can't be all right, but they can be all wrong. The best way of learning is to guide them to ask questions and learn for themselves.
I have an opinion you are very close to understanding things such as 'until proven false' is nonsense, including love thy neighbor and communion, let alone your concerns of presently unknown origins, and many other generally Christian things you stated. You are SO close to breaking through these unfounded beliefs it is my 'opinion', you'll one day not have these 'old fashioned' views of the bible (or Quran or Egyptian markings or aboriginal cave drawings or American Indians etc etc etc mythical stories), just due to reasoning out that belief REQUIRES good reason or evidence to have faith in anything, including natural human love for each other.