Is it normal to not tell a friend he's being creepy with the bar girls?

One of my guy friends and I meet up at a sports bar once or twice per week, sometimes along with another 1-2 guys. It's fun, we talk, eat, and have a few drafts. The place hires, no surprise, younger, beautiful, hot females as servers and hostesses, and they come and go. Bartenders have been there for years, and everyone knows them.

We all look at the girls, no question. I do, too. My one friend, though, looks, makes comments to myself and them, usually very sexual and sometimes bordering on vulgar, and really eyes them up, top to bottom. He's old enough to be their father, by far, and comes off even to some other guys as a creeper around the girls. I've had a few stop to chat with me while he's been in the men's room, and ask things like, what's with him, he creeps me out, please don't leave or get up when he's talking to me, and one who flat-out said, she won't stop by to chat if he's sitting next to me.

He's not a bad guy otherwise, but when he drinks, does treat these young girls like a piece of meat, and they notice. Is it normal for me to hold this in and not tell him, hey, leave the girls alone, you're creeping them out (and making me look bad)? He needs to hear this in some capacity, so the girls won't be as uncomfortable around him...They're tired of the comments, sexual innuendo compliments, occasional hand kisses..Just all of it.

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  • Ellenna

    Tell him straight out what you think of his behavior and if he doesn't change it disassociate yourself from it by physically moving away from him whenever he's being creepy.

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    • RoseIsabella

      I LOVE this comment!

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      • Ellenna

        Why thank you! I really do wish more men would call out other men about this type of behavior and I hope OP does so

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        • Alichael

          I totally don't think it's cool for a guy over 40 to be going to bars and clubs and hitting on girls 20 years younger than them. I'm over 40 and I stopped going to those kinds of places over 10 years ago. I don't even look at women under around 35 anymore, and women under 30-35 are just too young and into a wilder kind of lifestyle that I'm just not into anymore. I like quiet evenings in the peace and quiet of my home. Hooking up with a woman is not even a high priority for me anymore. If I do meet someone, it'll be someone my age who also wants quiet evenings at home. I wouldn't even want that every night though because I love living and being on my own a lot.
          I've learned to accept going into middle age gracefully though. I guess some guys over 40 want to still act like they're still in college and wanting to party, and they forget, or can't accept that they're not 20 something anymore.

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  • Mehereok1

    I had the opportunity to talk to him about his comments and behavior towards the girls last night, and took it. One of the new hostesses, who's very pretty, with mid-back length, jet-black hair, was working, and stopped to say hi to me. He jumped right in and interrupted, which at first pissed me off, then, my brain said..Great..Good shot to let loose on him.

    Soon as she walked away, I told him, half jokingly but meaning it "Nice of her to stop and say hi...to ME", meaning, I noticed how fast he jumped in. He made a comment about her being new and "wanting to know her", which prompted my direct "Yeah, about that..Some of the girls here really don't want to know you that well..As in, the comments and hitting on them..It's fun, I know, but you are creeping them out..Just wanted to tell you, because it's not so fun for them".

    He was a little annoyed at first, then said he'd watch himself more from now on, and did know he "goes a bit far" sometimes. He assured me it really was all in fun, and that he knew that, age-wise he had no shot with any of them. I hope he holds to his word.

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  • RoseIsabella

    I fucking hate creepers!

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    • Alichael

      Yeah, me too. When will these guys over 40 realize that most 20 something year old girls don't want guys that age hitting on them?

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      • RoseIsabella

        They are such disgusting garbage. Guys like that made my early twenties miserable for me.

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        • Alichael

          They need to find a woman their age, and stop going to those kinds of bars and nightclubs. They're past that.

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    • theLoiteringCreep

      Good for you. I love people that hate creepers. They make me want to become a more normal person.

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  • Tealights

    Easy solution, just arrange something with the workers there. As in, ask if they can give you a male server when you're with that guy; maybe the busboy who works in the back or something, because I know that bar is not 100% women and you're lying if you say it is.

    Believe me, it's not difficult to arrange this, especially since you're cool with some of them; because your friend is not going to stop. He's old and set in his ways, which means talking to him will only make him mad and put tension on the friendship. If this arrangement is in place, he has no one to get mad at, unless he's crazy.

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    • Mehereok1

      They do hire guys as servers, and once, host, but generally they don't stick around as long as the girls do, so people really don't have time to get to know them or chat much. Thing is, we sit at the bar, and all of the tenders, who we know well, are women. He's usually not bad with them, but one night, was annoying their beautiful bartender/bar manager to the point she was turning to me, saying..Can you save me from this?

      One guy they recently had was getting to know us, not a bad, younger guy, but, like many in that industry, had many issues going on. Ended up getting fired for not showing up. Which sucks, b/c he was about the only male staff there who'd stop and talk, even after his shift. I just need to tell my friend directly, look..Yes, they're cute and hot, but young and not here for you to make comments to or about. It's noticed and they don't like it.

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      • Alichael

        If this friend of yours is over 40, he needs to look for a woman closer to his age. If he starts getting involved with one, he'll stop feeling the need to flirt with these 20 somethings.

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      • Tealights

        Good luck man, you got this.

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  • curious-bunny

    Talk to him man no one wants to dread going to work because someone is pigging out on them

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    • Mehereok1

      I've made a few passing comments to him in response to his, such as "Come on, man, really? She's like 12", just to point out the huge age difference and how inappropriate it is, but..May need to be a little more direct and tell him, hey..You're creeping out some of the girls..Gotta lay off.

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  • odilo_globotnik

    Post his contact info on gay sites.

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  • nikkiclaire

    Sounds like they are in the wrong line of work.

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    • Mehereok1

      Maybe a few shouldn't be there, yeah. One was a very cute, young blonde bartender with a killer-sexy smile and bright blue eyes, but..Too shy to bartend, and would get a deer in the headlights look when even joking with her. She avoided my friend like crazy. Took his drink order, and turned tail.

      Other than her, most of the girls are doing fine. I just think they have a right to work and not be creeped out. Most can deal with it, but some..The ones who tell me he's creeping them out, really can't. Shouldn't have to anyway.

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    • Alichael

      The thing is, they enjoy the younger guy customers there flirting with them I'm sure, but not someone older. It's like when a girl dresses sexy, she does it because she wants guys to notice them, but not any guys.

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