She is not bragging about having an abortion she just wants to know if it is out of the norm! That's all!
A baby is not a miracle. Unless you have been told you will never have one, even then! A baby is just part of nature like a tree growing in your yard or a spider spinning its web.
Now if a MAN got pregnant that would be an effing miracle! Hahaha
Innocent lives are lost? How can something that is undeveloped be considered an innocent life! Its just a clump of cells! Some women get pregnant and miscarry and dont even know that they were pregnant thats how undeveloped an early stage zygote is.
You pro life people are a bunch of conservative bastards who just hate women at the end of the day and have no respect for the decision a woman makes about her body. Its funny to that the conservatives who are against abortion and want it illegal are not willing to support government funded programs that would offer women pre natal care, or subsidised daycare, or other forms of support for single mothers. I would like to see you go out and adopt a bunch of babies born to mothers who didnt want them.
Also making abortion illegal will not stop it from happening. Every year hundreds of thousands of women die world wide from illegal unsafe abortions in countries where they cannot get a safe, legal abortion, By being against abortion you are pretty much condemning women to die. You are also forcing the continued suffering of rape and incest victims who are pregnant by their attackers. You are also denying women with certain medical conditions the right to abort to save themselves!
Look at what just happened to that Indian lady who was living in Ireland. She was miscarrying and asked for an abortion. The doctors told her that it was a Catholic country and that they would not abort because the fetus still had a heart beat. She suffer in terrible pain and died and left her poor husband a widow. This woman didn't have to die.
Abortion has been around since the dawn of time, and it will always be around. Keep it safe and legal. Be in favour of women's rights!!!!!
I know this is an old entry and that you'll probably never read this, but I just had to respond to you.
A foetus is not a child, a foetus is not a child, a foetus is not a child! Don't you get it?
I find the change in language by Right to Lifers over the years very interesting: they used to go on about "unborn babies" now it's "unborn children" and I've even heard them referring to a foetus as a "human being" - sorry, it's not any such thing. It has the potential to become a human being, but the woman in whose body it's been conceived IS a human being and should not be subjected to compulsory motherhood by ANYONE
No I don't get it Ellenna, and I never will.
And a baby is a baby from the moment he/she is conceived.
No use trying to change my view as it'll never happen.
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Are you seriously suggesting that there is no transition stage between the joining of the sperm & ova in conception and a baby capable of surviving independently from its mother? That's just not how it is in the real world.
I concede that the zygote or foetus is a POTENTIAL human being, but that still doesn't make it a baby and doesn't give it more rights than the ACTUAL human being who owns the uterus.
You're totally entitled to your view, but you don't have the right to impose it on women who choose abortion over going through an unwanted pregnancy and giving birth to an unwanted child.
Incidentally, are you also opposed to contraception, war and/or the death penalty? In all circumstances? Just wondering how consistent your views are, and whether or not you would want your views enforced legally on other people.
I'm not going to argue with you and I do respect your views and I am not here to change your views just as you have no right to change my views.
I do believe that all babies are miracles whether you have been trying for 1 month or 10 years.
I will not get into too much of a debate about abortions and yes people have their reasons and it is wrong to be closed minded as we can't compare women who use abortions as contraception and believe me they are out there to a women who became pregnant from rape. That said though if I was raped there would be no question that I would keep the baby. I would see it as something good out of something bad. As it is my personal belief that a mother should love her child unconditionally.(That's just my view though and you are free to disagree.) I'm not stupid I know abortions are not going to go away and we could debate on her all night and some people who agree with me and others would agree with you. I response to paragraph 3. I lost a baby when I was 6 weeks pregnant (4 weeks conception). I still see my beautiful baby as human being someone I had created and never a clump of cells.and no amount of posts will convince me otherwise.
I do agree with you that if men had babies the population would come to a shuddering halt. There's no doubt about that.
Also I vote labour not conservative. I don't know why voting prefences were brought into it. xx
I'm not trying to change your views either. The problem I have with people who are pro life is that they also tend to be judgemental. If you are pro life and see a clump of cells as a human being thats fine, but it is WRONG to judge anymore who is pro choice or who has had an abortion.
I also lost a baby when I was 8 weeks pregnant...what came out of me was a clump of cells with no awareness, no face nothing human about it. A zygote is not a human being. Its the potential for human life but it is definitely not the same as a baby or as losing a baby. The two cannot be compared. And it is silly to get upset over it as it is typical to miscarry in that stage of pregnancy and most women will miscarry in their life time some with out even knowing they were pregnant to begin with. May sound insensitive but thats the harsh reality. There are bigger more important things in life to worry about. But again MY opinion. You dont have to take what i say to heart.
Politics has A LOT to do with pro-life and pro-choice views. It is always the right wingers who are pro life as they tend to let their moral and religious beliefs filtrate into their politics and political policies. And it is vary true that many pro-life conservatives do not support programs to help mothers and children. If you vote liberal that good for you. At least your vote might help get the government to sponsor some programs to help mothers and babies making it easier for women to have children.
IIN to have had 6 abortions over 25 years? It's legal here (Australia)
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She is not bragging about having an abortion she just wants to know if it is out of the norm! That's all!
A baby is not a miracle. Unless you have been told you will never have one, even then! A baby is just part of nature like a tree growing in your yard or a spider spinning its web.
Now if a MAN got pregnant that would be an effing miracle! Hahaha
Innocent lives are lost? How can something that is undeveloped be considered an innocent life! Its just a clump of cells! Some women get pregnant and miscarry and dont even know that they were pregnant thats how undeveloped an early stage zygote is.
You pro life people are a bunch of conservative bastards who just hate women at the end of the day and have no respect for the decision a woman makes about her body. Its funny to that the conservatives who are against abortion and want it illegal are not willing to support government funded programs that would offer women pre natal care, or subsidised daycare, or other forms of support for single mothers. I would like to see you go out and adopt a bunch of babies born to mothers who didnt want them.
Also making abortion illegal will not stop it from happening. Every year hundreds of thousands of women die world wide from illegal unsafe abortions in countries where they cannot get a safe, legal abortion, By being against abortion you are pretty much condemning women to die. You are also forcing the continued suffering of rape and incest victims who are pregnant by their attackers. You are also denying women with certain medical conditions the right to abort to save themselves!
Look at what just happened to that Indian lady who was living in Ireland. She was miscarrying and asked for an abortion. The doctors told her that it was a Catholic country and that they would not abort because the fetus still had a heart beat. She suffer in terrible pain and died and left her poor husband a widow. This woman didn't have to die.
Abortion has been around since the dawn of time, and it will always be around. Keep it safe and legal. Be in favour of women's rights!!!!!
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You hit the nail right on the head. You are absolutely correct. Pro-Lifers? HA! More like Anti-Choicers!
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Is it so wrong for me to promote the life of an innocent unborn child. Did I miss something. Yes I am pro life and proud. x
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I know this is an old entry and that you'll probably never read this, but I just had to respond to you.
A foetus is not a child, a foetus is not a child, a foetus is not a child! Don't you get it?
I find the change in language by Right to Lifers over the years very interesting: they used to go on about "unborn babies" now it's "unborn children" and I've even heard them referring to a foetus as a "human being" - sorry, it's not any such thing. It has the potential to become a human being, but the woman in whose body it's been conceived IS a human being and should not be subjected to compulsory motherhood by ANYONE
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No I don't get it Ellenna, and I never will.
And a baby is a baby from the moment he/she is conceived.
No use trying to change my view as it'll never happen.
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Are you seriously suggesting that there is no transition stage between the joining of the sperm & ova in conception and a baby capable of surviving independently from its mother? That's just not how it is in the real world.
I concede that the zygote or foetus is a POTENTIAL human being, but that still doesn't make it a baby and doesn't give it more rights than the ACTUAL human being who owns the uterus.
You're totally entitled to your view, but you don't have the right to impose it on women who choose abortion over going through an unwanted pregnancy and giving birth to an unwanted child.
Incidentally, are you also opposed to contraception, war and/or the death penalty? In all circumstances? Just wondering how consistent your views are, and whether or not you would want your views enforced legally on other people.
I'm not going to argue with you and I do respect your views and I am not here to change your views just as you have no right to change my views.
I do believe that all babies are miracles whether you have been trying for 1 month or 10 years.
I will not get into too much of a debate about abortions and yes people have their reasons and it is wrong to be closed minded as we can't compare women who use abortions as contraception and believe me they are out there to a women who became pregnant from rape. That said though if I was raped there would be no question that I would keep the baby. I would see it as something good out of something bad. As it is my personal belief that a mother should love her child unconditionally.(That's just my view though and you are free to disagree.) I'm not stupid I know abortions are not going to go away and we could debate on her all night and some people who agree with me and others would agree with you. I response to paragraph 3. I lost a baby when I was 6 weeks pregnant (4 weeks conception). I still see my beautiful baby as human being someone I had created and never a clump of cells.and no amount of posts will convince me otherwise.
I do agree with you that if men had babies the population would come to a shuddering halt. There's no doubt about that.
Also I vote labour not conservative. I don't know why voting prefences were brought into it. xx
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I'm not trying to change your views either. The problem I have with people who are pro life is that they also tend to be judgemental. If you are pro life and see a clump of cells as a human being thats fine, but it is WRONG to judge anymore who is pro choice or who has had an abortion.
I also lost a baby when I was 8 weeks pregnant...what came out of me was a clump of cells with no awareness, no face nothing human about it. A zygote is not a human being. Its the potential for human life but it is definitely not the same as a baby or as losing a baby. The two cannot be compared. And it is silly to get upset over it as it is typical to miscarry in that stage of pregnancy and most women will miscarry in their life time some with out even knowing they were pregnant to begin with. May sound insensitive but thats the harsh reality. There are bigger more important things in life to worry about. But again MY opinion. You dont have to take what i say to heart.
Politics has A LOT to do with pro-life and pro-choice views. It is always the right wingers who are pro life as they tend to let their moral and religious beliefs filtrate into their politics and political policies. And it is vary true that many pro-life conservatives do not support programs to help mothers and children. If you vote liberal that good for you. At least your vote might help get the government to sponsor some programs to help mothers and babies making it easier for women to have children.