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This one kid I knew once started raving about white men endure the greatest hardship and living of all other groups, in the US. [He meant this by all standards]
It was one of the most preposterous opinions I've ever heard.
What do you think? Was that kid wacked out or what?
| NO. | 39 | |
| only a total drug infused ingrate thinks such thing | 34 | |
| YEAH I TOTALLY AGREE!! WHITE BOYS SUFFER THE MOST | 22 |
White men do have it hardest. Except for the women and non whites that is.
why is the first thing you think of a battle b/w the sexes? :/ And legal issues? being accused of rape??? Being falsely accused of rape is not an everyday scenario. BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS? being raped and being too ashamed to report it.
Yeah, you're right. Being raped and being ashamed to report it is a bad thing...Oh, I guess you missed out the important part where most male rape victims don't come forward.
And actually, being accused of rape is something that happens daily, including false rape charges. Like how a man accused of rape was killed by the girl's brother because he believed him to be her sister's rapist, then later on it turns out she wasn't raped at all.
Your coming from a lot of different angles right now. You know as well as I do that male rape victims don't come forward for the same reasons as women. As for implying that the rate of male-rape parallels that of female-rape? Please, give me a break. Also notice how your trying to parallel the rate of false-accusations to the dark figure of crime. Again, thats a joke.
And PS: I also watched that episode on SVU.
Wrong, they don't. Male rape victims don't come forward for more reasons. The male would be considered less of a man for complaining about it, he would be seen as weak for a woman overpowering him (which is worse for males, because the males main feature is their stength), and they know that it won't be taken seriously, and that they will most likely not get the person that raped him convicted.
Did I say it parallels it? No. I said that a higher percentage of male rape victims don't come forwarard of their rape than the percentage of female rape victims. But, I bet you'r the type that doesn't believe that 40% of domestiv violence is usually the female against the man.
"Again, that's a joke". Is it now? Prove it. Since men risk more from coming forward of their rape, including the woman responsible not being convicted for it, it's logical that more men than women don't come forward. Not to mention, you say that rape against men doesn't parallel...You can't say that. The only statistics that actually count as rape are ones actually counted as rapeby the law. So all those false rape allegations that got a man punished for what he never done gets added to the amount of women raped, even though those women weren't, where as the amount of men raped don't get taken seriously and the woman isn't marked as a rapist and the man not marked as raped.
So I'm glad you see it as a joke, but I see it as a problem.
Side note. SVU?
Also, as an actual fact against your whole thing, and to prove my point further. There were three 8th grader girls that forcefully stripped a 6th grader boy. The boy was screaming for help, trying to keep his shorts on, while they were trying to strip him. They successfully stripped the boy, laughing about it. The boy was terrified. Oh, side note: one of the three girls were recording it all. So the law in involved. Even when they had physical proof that showed they definetly had done what I explained, the whole insident was marked down as "Just three girls playing a prank". So no, sexual violation from women on to men is not taken at all seriously compaired to men sexual violation to women, and being brought up in such a system shows that men won't be taken seriously when violated by a woman.
Last note: You should look up on Youtube "Girlwriteswhat".
Hey don't for a second think I value a women's right to say no more than any mans. I absolutely empathize/sympathize with anyone who has been molested, sexually assaulted, or violated in anyway.
The example your using is of a prepubescent child being molested by a group of girls. That's perverted either way you spin it. Had it been a girl? Fuggetabout it. Her attackers would have been tried as adults if they were boys and the state had no legal qualms.
But back to what I was saying earlier, do I think that men get raped by woman as much as women get raped by men? No, simply because the average woman typically cannot overpower the average man. Besides, the one commonality across the board among child molesters and violent rapists is high levels of testosterone, which is unusual for a woman to have. However I'm not implying that men are inherently predisposed to have less morals than women. Hell to the no.
My step-fathers first wife left their 9 month old daughter to fend for herself for god knows how long; he found her eating cherries off of bushes, and digging through garbage. His second wife--the child's step mother--sexually trafficked her when she was 14/15 in Italy. This same woman has a life insurance policy on my stepdad. When I was 12, she literally tried to poison him. But I'm sorry I digress.
Anywho, who's to say these male-rapists aren't actually men themselves? I don't doubt there are female perps. I just don't find it as likely.
and I watched "Feminism and the Disposable Male". It's rather refreshing lol.
I think that there is some logic in what your friend said. I mean when you think about it, America plays favorites with minorities. We offer scholarships to minorities. We allow minorities to sue on discrimination. Due to America trying to make up for its bigotry, Caucasians have sort of been bumped down in most social situations. However, I wouldn't necessarily say that Caucasians have "the hardest lives" in America, that is completely up to the individual.
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Yeah, paying everyone less, still clinging to old racial stereotypes, still not having any real numbers to back up any idea of equality in the workplace, and otherwise continuing to dominate the scene... it must be just really tough. Those damn scholarships given out by a tiny minority of generous souls to other minorities are a major way for "The Man" to keep the white male down.
Morality and theory aside, if you were to use mathematics to determine which race & gender has the highest % chance of succeeding with high-profile jobs, annual income, political power, quality and standards of living, and social acceptance... it's "white, male".
I guess the math adds up. However, I do think that the individual can chose whether he wants to work hard towards earning a lot of money or being a shirker. I'll admit that whites have had a head start in most countries, especially in America, since they are the ones who found it, but we're slowly starting to evolve as humans and become more tolerant of others.
I believe so, too, which is a great start...
but getting hung up in petty things like "affirmative action is unfair to whites" just kind of holds back that progress.
As much as a white man can say "we've advanced enough as a society, that a black man from the ghetto can get to Harvard Law if he applies himself", a black man can easily say "A white man can put himself through college without financial help from the NAACP if he applies himself"
I, for one, look forward to the day when we ALL say "Anyone can make it to the top, if they apply themselves." while providing an equal opportunity for everyone.
When you say "dumped down in most social situations", you mean...what? Because I'm sure you've visited both predominantly white and predominantly black neighborhoods, and presumably, have noticed the aching differences in the ways of life. I feel like, after a lifetime of horrors, if a "minority" child can come out from underneath the rubble with ambition and positive momentum...fcuk yeah give him a scholarship to a great school. Said scholarships are there to level the playing field (granted that they are allotted on merit).
Well...sorta. I mean, the government doesn't give college funds to minorities only (correct me if I'm wrong about that, but I'm 99% sure it's true)....so 'we' don't, private organizations do, and that doesn't 'take away' from white guys at all. It's also not impossible for a white person to get a minority scholarship. There's also 'white-focused' scholarships (some cultural ones, for example). As far as discrimination goes, in most cases the same law applies to everyone, so anyone can sue if they've been unlawfully discriminated against-except Affirmative Action-but that doesn't apply to all employers, and it's questionable that it's even really effective, and even more rare that anyone can TRULY claim that they didn't get the job because of some minority or woman (people like to claim that, but the truth of the matter is usually something else entirely). Usually people who are just failures in general are the ones who claim that these things hurt them. Or they've never actually been affected by any of these things and are just spewing crap that they don't even know about.
lol, I just came across this: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/02/texan-wins-controversial-white-man-scholarship/
Having money and being a male member of the dominant race of the country you are born in essentially makes you one of the most fortunate people alive.
You would be most fortunate to be born a white American male. I'm definately not saying it's right, but the undeniable history of racism and sexism affords a white of the male gender greater opportunities for personal advancement than any other.
So I have a choice of "The kid's wrong" "Say he's right while belittling whie people as boys" or "The kid's wrong but on drugs".
-SIgh-
i, obviously, don't think white men suffer too much as a group in this society. And just because I use the term "boys" doesnt mean I'm belittling a whole race, or even men of that race. It's really the way you want to interpret it.
And , he was constantly doing very hard drugs, so yes. That is an option.
He's probably just a major loser in life (you mentioned drugs), and wants to blame others for his failures. Typical. 'oh I didn't get the job because of some black guy' or 'damn illegal immigrants make it impossible for me to find work' or whatever. Yeah, that's bullshit.
It's probably slightly tougher in Sierra Leone. The average life expectancy is 37 years old and one in three children die before the age of six.
Are you fucking serious? That kid is fucking crazy. White males are the most privileged demographic in the USA.
Suffering and hardship are suffering and hardship. Color or orign doesn't matter.
I'm a white man in the United States, and I think that there are some opportunities afforded to some minorities that whites don't get. This being said, there are a lot of opportunities given to white males in this country as well, whether it's ease of getting a job, or better pay than women. To say that we have it worse than any other group is being pretentious and ridiculous.