Is it normal to believe that gay men are the most shallow group of people?

"I'm not intentionally trying to stereotype "

saying that doesn't actually negate the fact that you are stereotyping though.

It's like saying "I'm not hitting you" while you're hitting someone...

Ugh. I know this gay guy who constantly talks about the men he gave BJ's in public restrooms (even though some of them were heterosexual).

Whenever I say I don't want to hear his stories, he's all like "Hey, is it because I'm gay, you intolerant fuck?!"

Not all gays are like that. Stephen Fry for example is awesome. But I dislike the flamboyant gays as well.

You don't have to be gay to be shallow. I'm pretty successful in that (according to my ex's), and I'm straight.

On the other hand I've met a few gay guys in my life that weren't very "fabulous", so it's not all of them.

However, someone said it above ^ -it's an ongoing trend, with designer clothing, parties. and the stupid make-up trend for gay guys. It's constantly fueled by media and, obviously the retail industry. So maybe it'll pass.

I can only speak of the 5 gay males I have known well. 2 are very shallow and also flaming, 1 is flaming but not shallow and 2 are neither shallow nor flamboyant.

From this very small sample group 40% is shallow, 60% is flaming and 66% of flamboyants are superficial.

This is the highest % of superficials in any group of my friends.

Hmm, it's difficult to say. On the one hand you are observing a trend around you.

But you would have to rule out any other factors, area you guys live in, upbringing, general attitudes and so on. Ancedotal experience doesn't count for much, my only experience was dating a flamboyant bisexual, and he was obsessed with designers, would spend $200 on a pair of jeans like it was nothing.

I don't know, maybe it's just the gay men who are really into fashion and since designers are big right now, that's what they get into, hence breeding the shallow attitude.

And of course, to be fair, far too many people are far too worried about these things.

It's normal to base an opinion on experiences you've had, as long as you don't generalise and deny other factors, which I don't believe you're doing:). It does interest me, though, why this is. There is obviously a bit of truth behind the stereotype, and I wonder what makes it that way, why gay people would be more shallow or camp than the "average" straight man. It makes me very curious. Of course it's a very general trend, since men (and just people in general) can be quite shallow, but it is very interesting.

I'm straight but I love sex, physically attractive girls, material things, luxury and money. A life without such things is not worth the trouble.

Wonder why that is. It couldn't possibly be that people hate and stereotype so much and stuff them halfway in the closet so they have to take what they can get in terms of boyfriends, could it?

i don't know because im not gay i just had to see if this was one of them funny gay posts.

I know only one, and he was the most shallow, ignorant, mean person I know. And a huge bimbo with his Chiuaua and his gucci lunchbox.

there is a highend dress shop run by 2 gay men, on embroidered cushions near the door sit 2 champagne colored toy poodles, coco and chanel. they wear diamonte collars and have painted claws (chanel polish natch) is this shallow or cute? i dont know

Particularly with gay men. I'm straight female.

Have you ever scrutinized your judgment about "them" as hasty and simple for such limited experience you've had?

I think the perception is quite common unfortunately; I am a really deep person, but am homely, & not very flamboyant. I've come out to plenty of people; I'm super nice, but afraid to get hurt by people and be in any situation which I consider unhealthy. Unfortunately, a lot of people I dated were either obsessive, or had issues, or made me uncomfortable... But there are, ofcourse many aspects & lgbt people are complex & have unique needs and issues and varying degrees of difficulty with their lives. I have noticed that attractive & well-built men always seem to have an easier time, & thats my own little peeve-- Shallow people only have as much power as you give them; no one deserves to be shallow, what a curse! Teach them what its all about.

Because they act like women(not all of them), and women are shallow(not all of them).

Gay people shouldn't belong on this planet

I completely agree that Gay men are incredibly shallow, ignorant and often racist. They combine certain aspects of male and female psyche. And unfortunately, the combine WORST OF BOTH THE WORLDS.
They have Male sex obsession, Visual stimulation. But dont have masculine carefree, risk taking attitude.
They have female obsession of always being prim and prudish, but dont have feminine nature of caring and nurturing. Gays often have a negative frame of mind: Constantly bitching, marginalizing and ridiculing things which dont exactly fit into their idea of elegance. They have much higher propensity of judging things solely based on looks- Dress sense of a colleague, Pet dog of a girl in the park, new tower coming up in City Centre, facial features of racial minority gay men.. Almost anything can be their potential victim of vile criticism: solely on superficial criteria of looks.

PS: Not every gay men are like that. However, sufficient number of gay men have such bent of mind.