You realise the majority of the people on this website come from countries with Sub-replacement fertility? That means the birth rate is lower than is required to maintain the current population number, which leads to a shrinking and ageing population. According to the UN, 48% of the world's population live in countries with SRF.
However, migration to countries with SRF is high because they tend to be countries with higher standards of living, education and the lowest mortality rates. Countries with the highest birth rates are almost always those with the highest mortality rates, worst standards of living and the poorest education. Migration increases the net population of many SRF countries, despite the fact that the original population is declining, and so the net population grows.
Basically what I'm saying is that:
- Most of us on this site live in countries where the fertility rate is lower than required to maintain the current population (so accusing people of 'not caring about overpopulation' and implying they are exacerbating a problem when they choose to have a couple of kids is just retarded)
- We currently produce enough food to feed every single person on earth (it just doesn't get to every single person on earth).
- Education, economic stability and growth, access to medical care, a strong democratic government (or similar national union) are what the poorest countries need to thrive. If those countries had what we have, the rapid population expansion in these areas (specifically parts of Africa and Asia) would slow and stop. 'Overpopulation' isn't the cause of most of the problems you cited, however ("war, genocide, homicide, pain, depression, corruption, poverty and famine").
- We couldn't go "30 to 80 (maybe more) years without having kids"! Especially not 80+ that's fucking ridiculous. We'd die out! How the hell did you think that made sense?
Ha, after reading your comment, I now remember where my train of thought was headed when I wrote about Canada's replacement rates.
You've explained it all quite well, Mr. Thing - certainly *way* better than I could have, even if I had completed my thought process. Sometimes I have a really short atten-----------Oh, look! A squirrel.
I usually feel like I make a mess of it and end up writing too much. Glad someone understood my poorly structured rant. Don't worry, I have a touch of the A.D.D. myself sometimes, I'll be in the middle of a sen... Oh, look! A streaking nun!
Haha, my husband occasionally complains about my short attention span. It annoys the shit out of him. Sometimes, there's just a whole lot of distracting things happening within my vicinity - it's not my fault.
I thought the same thing when I read that 30-80 part. 80 years would mean the end of the human race, hell even 30 would wreck havoc; a small young population would have to bear the burden of an older population many times its size. Idiotic comment by OP.
I stopped at the first paragraph. Do you realize how sunk inside the machine you are? You start from the basis that reducing the population is a bad thing. What possible discussion can there be?
I never once said reducing the population is a bad thing. Sunk inside the machine... How exciting. If you'd like to actually discuss something how about reading the whole thing, otherwise, "what possible discussion can there be?"
IIN that the majority of people don't care about overpopulation?
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You realise the majority of the people on this website come from countries with Sub-replacement fertility? That means the birth rate is lower than is required to maintain the current population number, which leads to a shrinking and ageing population. According to the UN, 48% of the world's population live in countries with SRF.
However, migration to countries with SRF is high because they tend to be countries with higher standards of living, education and the lowest mortality rates. Countries with the highest birth rates are almost always those with the highest mortality rates, worst standards of living and the poorest education. Migration increases the net population of many SRF countries, despite the fact that the original population is declining, and so the net population grows.
Basically what I'm saying is that:
- Most of us on this site live in countries where the fertility rate is lower than required to maintain the current population (so accusing people of 'not caring about overpopulation' and implying they are exacerbating a problem when they choose to have a couple of kids is just retarded)
- We currently produce enough food to feed every single person on earth (it just doesn't get to every single person on earth).
- Education, economic stability and growth, access to medical care, a strong democratic government (or similar national union) are what the poorest countries need to thrive. If those countries had what we have, the rapid population expansion in these areas (specifically parts of Africa and Asia) would slow and stop. 'Overpopulation' isn't the cause of most of the problems you cited, however ("war, genocide, homicide, pain, depression, corruption, poverty and famine").
- We couldn't go "30 to 80 (maybe more) years without having kids"! Especially not 80+ that's fucking ridiculous. We'd die out! How the hell did you think that made sense?
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Ha, after reading your comment, I now remember where my train of thought was headed when I wrote about Canada's replacement rates.
You've explained it all quite well, Mr. Thing - certainly *way* better than I could have, even if I had completed my thought process. Sometimes I have a really short atten-----------Oh, look! A squirrel.
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Thank you Mr. (or Miss?) Fun! :)
I usually feel like I make a mess of it and end up writing too much. Glad someone understood my poorly structured rant. Don't worry, I have a touch of the A.D.D. myself sometimes, I'll be in the middle of a sen... Oh, look! A streaking nun!
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You are welcome. :)
Haha, my husband occasionally complains about my short attention span. It annoys the shit out of him. Sometimes, there's just a whole lot of distracting things happening within my vicinity - it's not my fault.
I thought the same thing when I read that 30-80 part. 80 years would mean the end of the human race, hell even 30 would wreck havoc; a small young population would have to bear the burden of an older population many times its size. Idiotic comment by OP.
I stopped at the first paragraph. Do you realize how sunk inside the machine you are? You start from the basis that reducing the population is a bad thing. What possible discussion can there be?
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I never once said reducing the population is a bad thing. Sunk inside the machine... How exciting. If you'd like to actually discuss something how about reading the whole thing, otherwise, "what possible discussion can there be?"