You dufus. Wikipedia says, "Men who survive may be able to transmit the disease sexually for nearly two months." Africans don't have enough self-control to use condoms consistently for 2 months.
I love being called a dufus by people who learn everything they need to know on Wikipedia and who think "Africans don't have self control."
So, you're partially right, but this is irrelevant for several reasons, As indicated by RT-PCR and ELISA antigen results from blood, the shedding of EBOV in saliva corresponded almost exactly to the period of viremia, with the last positive saliva specimen noted at day 8 after disease onset. In contrast, specimens of breast milk and semen were found to be culture positive and RT-PCR positive at days 15 and 40 after disease onset, respectively, when EBOV was already cleared from the blood. semen was negative when retested at day 45.
Basically, Ebola virus is present in the semen when it is no longer present in other bodily fluids...ie when the patient is in remission...however, if you consider mortality rates, which are extremely high for treated cases, and exponentially larger for untreated cases. The notion of the virus being transmuted by someone who received no medical treatment and was therefore left undiagnosed is beyond unlikely. Secondly, remission does not make a patient asymptomatic.
So, let's review...for the presence of Ebola in the semen after remission to even be relevant in terms of overseas transmission, your patient zero would have to have survived the Ebola virus with no medical treatment whatsoever (because a diagnoses won't get you a plane ticket), be asymptomatic at the time of travel, and then immediately start fucking bitches and smashing pussy left and right once he reached his destination.
Very scholarly. An African dude in remission with minimal symptoms may start fucking bitches and smashing pussy. Two percent (or so) of males are like that. (20 dudes in remission out of a 1000 remission cases is enough to keep the epidemic going in Africa.)
No one said anything about patient zero. I'll leave that grim scenario to your wishful thinking.
There are many persuasive arguments to the contrary, but I think if we eventually reach 100,000 cases in Africa, it will go global. Here's my rationale. "The average time between contracting the infection and the onset of symptoms is 13 days, but can be as long as 25 days."[ref 5] Patient zero might well be a gay guy that has sex in Africa the night before his departure to the gay brothels of Haiti. He spends two weeks of sex tourism in Haiti, develops symptoms and dies there. Meanwhile new cases at the brothel multiply and a few months later, an affluent New York poof brings the disease to the US in the same manner.
I hope I am wrong.
5. Eichner M, Dowell SF, Firese N (2011). "Incubation Period of Ebola Hemorrhagic Virus Subtype Zaire OH AND BRETT". Osong Public Health and Research Perspectives 2 (1): 3–7. doi:10.1016/j.phrp.2011.04.001. PMID 24159443.
Just no. This brothel scenario is not going to happen. Ebola is not contagious or even present in the semen before it becomes symptomatic. It is impossible for someone to transmit the disease during incubation.
Ebola is not even classed as a sexually transmitted disease. It is pretty much always transmitted during medical treatment or to those in close proximity to a symptomatic patient due to exposure to bodily fluids.
While it is possible for someone who has contracted the virus and is not yet symptomatic to travel overseas, the likelihood of the virus spreading is low, given proper medical protocols...however, it's highly unlikely that it will spread overseas to begin with.
IIN that the African Ebola epidemic will go global.
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You dufus. Wikipedia says, "Men who survive may be able to transmit the disease sexually for nearly two months." Africans don't have enough self-control to use condoms consistently for 2 months.
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I love being called a dufus by people who learn everything they need to know on Wikipedia and who think "Africans don't have self control."
So, you're partially right, but this is irrelevant for several reasons, As indicated by RT-PCR and ELISA antigen results from blood, the shedding of EBOV in saliva corresponded almost exactly to the period of viremia, with the last positive saliva specimen noted at day 8 after disease onset. In contrast, specimens of breast milk and semen were found to be culture positive and RT-PCR positive at days 15 and 40 after disease onset, respectively, when EBOV was already cleared from the blood. semen was negative when retested at day 45.
Basically, Ebola virus is present in the semen when it is no longer present in other bodily fluids...ie when the patient is in remission...however, if you consider mortality rates, which are extremely high for treated cases, and exponentially larger for untreated cases. The notion of the virus being transmuted by someone who received no medical treatment and was therefore left undiagnosed is beyond unlikely. Secondly, remission does not make a patient asymptomatic.
So, let's review...for the presence of Ebola in the semen after remission to even be relevant in terms of overseas transmission, your patient zero would have to have survived the Ebola virus with no medical treatment whatsoever (because a diagnoses won't get you a plane ticket), be asymptomatic at the time of travel, and then immediately start fucking bitches and smashing pussy left and right once he reached his destination.
Oh god, start stockpiling ramen.
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Very scholarly. An African dude in remission with minimal symptoms may start fucking bitches and smashing pussy. Two percent (or so) of males are like that. (20 dudes in remission out of a 1000 remission cases is enough to keep the epidemic going in Africa.)
No one said anything about patient zero. I'll leave that grim scenario to your wishful thinking.
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Yeah- enough to keep I going in Africa...the question was: do you think Ebola will go global?
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There are many persuasive arguments to the contrary, but I think if we eventually reach 100,000 cases in Africa, it will go global. Here's my rationale. "The average time between contracting the infection and the onset of symptoms is 13 days, but can be as long as 25 days."[ref 5] Patient zero might well be a gay guy that has sex in Africa the night before his departure to the gay brothels of Haiti. He spends two weeks of sex tourism in Haiti, develops symptoms and dies there. Meanwhile new cases at the brothel multiply and a few months later, an affluent New York poof brings the disease to the US in the same manner.
I hope I am wrong.
5. Eichner M, Dowell SF, Firese N (2011). "Incubation Period of Ebola Hemorrhagic Virus Subtype Zaire OH AND BRETT". Osong Public Health and Research Perspectives 2 (1): 3–7. doi:10.1016/j.phrp.2011.04.001. PMID 24159443.
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Just no. This brothel scenario is not going to happen. Ebola is not contagious or even present in the semen before it becomes symptomatic. It is impossible for someone to transmit the disease during incubation.
Ebola is not even classed as a sexually transmitted disease. It is pretty much always transmitted during medical treatment or to those in close proximity to a symptomatic patient due to exposure to bodily fluids.
While it is possible for someone who has contracted the virus and is not yet symptomatic to travel overseas, the likelihood of the virus spreading is low, given proper medical protocols...however, it's highly unlikely that it will spread overseas to begin with.
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I'm saying do the math. Highly_unlikely X 100,000 cases = much_more_likely.
No reason to be alarmed. We aren't even close to 100,000 cases yet. Just calm down.