Is it normal that i want to teach this to "kids"?

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I want to teach rape prevention to "kids" and by that I mean what ever is the suitable age at that school for them to learn sex education. The private school I'm going to teach at is age 12-13. It's a primary school with a high school.

The reason I want to teach rape prevention is because of the rise of crimes and rape specifically in my home country and my current one. And my best female friend was raped at a party.

Things I think would be helpful to teach kids to lower there risk of rape. (Lower not completely eliminate but still beneficial)
•Dont get super drunk around strangers
•Dont get in a vechial with strangers even if it's one person offering you a ride home.
•Dont take drink from strangers
•Bring a transparent glass cover if you have to leave your drink alone (e.g. need to go to the bathroom)
•What to do if you were raped (the procedure of calling the cops and rape kit)
•Take hidden survalincel/sound recorder for evidence when going to clubs or parties (e.g. hidden mini cameras in necklaces, eye glasses, watches)
•If you're dating online and are meeting up for the first time go to a public place or bring a friend with you. Do not agree to meet up in a unfirmilar place.

And there's more I'd like to teach and scenario I've planned out to get questions and to give advice on if I were to educate them on prevention of rape.

I know it won't eliminate rape but it still would be helpful. I've met so many rape victims who blame themselves when I was voulenteering at a youth group for mental health and wellbeing. And it's not there fault at all that the raped occured, I believe the rapist should suffer the worst punishment possible. And I also want to help survivors of rape with this infomation that most never had access to.

I hope I made sense my English isn't perfect and I don't mean to offend anyone. I will correct any Grammer the skewered my main points after hearing your opinion on this.

P.S I'm going to teach either chemistry and biochemistry/health (two subjects)

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RoseIsabella

5 years ago

Yes, I think you are normal. Where are you?

This isn't very nice, but I would love to be able to shoot a rapist, or child molester at point blank range. The only thing I would feel would be the recoil my weapon.

I hope you are successful in your future educational endeavors to help the youth where you live!

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  That's good to hear I've only gotten some minor setbacks on getting permission because of parents opinions on what should be taught and how.
  
  I'm from Melbourne but my background is French. And rapes has increased there as well and in Australia.
  
  Yes humans can be very sick and cruel so I don't even blame that comment.
  
  Thank you I just like to make my impact in life trying to make the world a better place.
  
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Bad101

5 years ago

Teach the dumb youth I say! Lol
They all could do with a lot of help haha.
But seriously you sound like an angle hope you succeed with your career, teachers deserve a medal of honour.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  Thank you that means a lot. :)
  
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YourMomIsGae

5 years ago

My school already taught me these things lol. Didn't help much but the girls knew what to do i guess

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  That's good they don't in my city and I'm not sure about the rest of my country.
  Can I know specifically what didn't help in the class? And curiously what country are you from?
  Because if the school gives me the opportunity I want to improve on the class I planned out for it.
  
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  - YourMomIsGae
    
    5 years ago
    
    It was mainly just the guys and some girls not paying attention. I'm from New Zealand lol.
    
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      5 years ago
      
      Ah that makes sense.
      I remember when I had my sex education class in year 6 most of the boys didn't take it seriously and were laughing. Normal behaviour haha.
      Ah nice.
      
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Ellenna

5 years ago

So you're going to teach girls what they should do to avoid being raped? How about teaching boys NOT to rape?

Your list implies that if women change our behavior we won't be raped and that's bullshit. The cause of rape is rapists, not how women behave.

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- WeirdGuyFromTheSouth
  
  5 years ago
  
  Ok ellena so just go ahead and walk down the ghetto streets naked and then come play victim when you are raped. Jesus christ you snowflakes are insane. You cant "teach" an asshole not to rape. Its not like hes going to listen. You have to look out for yourself in this world. Some people are evil. Jesus christ girl
  
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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  No I think your making too many assumptions about my true intentions. I'm a girl by the way and I didnt say girl anywhere in my post did I?
  
  Both genders obviously, and only thing I could teach to both boys and girls not just boys with "not to rape", is that I came up with extra scenarios for that: showing them what's considered rape and what isn't in our law. I can't just go up to all the boys in the school and tell them not to rape that doesn't solve anything but creates more amosity between the genders. Plus they know what rape is already (at age 12+ because of sex education) and how it's bad. But to show them what's acceptable is more helpful in my opinion to everyone not just boys.
  
  And also what is social acceptable with most people around the topic of sex in general.
  
  Also I never said it's cause by behavioral things. And I already said teaching rape prevention won't get rid of rape, I'm just to make sure no one's putting themselves under unnessary risk by following some helpful precautions, there choice to follow the advice and teaching or not, but be very helpful to young people who would like to know.
  
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- leggs91200
  
  5 years ago
  
  It sounds good but the reality is that some males simply cannot control their hormones. It does not help that some females act promiscuous.
  
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  - charli.m
    
    5 years ago
    
    What I can't understand is how a transwoman is such a fucking misogynist.
    
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    - Ellenna
      
      5 years ago
      
      What transwoman are you talking about?
      
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      - charli.m
        
        5 years ago
        
        Leggs. The person I replied to. And the person I specified in another comment.
        
        I'm sorry, but I really don't know how I can be clearer.
        
        My last few interactions with you honestly make me think you need to improve your comprehension skills
        
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      5 years ago
      
      Oh thanks for clearing that up I thought I was talking to a guy. (Not joking). They're saying a lot of things I hear from angry guys.
      
      Makes it even stranger actually their stance on the topic.
      
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      - charli.m
        
        5 years ago
        
        Just to clarify, I'm referring to leggs not ellenna.
        
        Ellenna is spot on.
        
        Also, I have a 13 year old cousin going to school in Melbourne. I don't buy your claim that none of this is taught "in your city".
        
        A form of this (but age appropriate, not specifically about sex until perhaps hinted on in year 6) is taught K-6 by Healthy Harold program, which I believe is Australia wide. I'll fact check that, though.
        
        A lot of what you say doesn't add up.
        
        Edit: Yeah, Life Education still run the Healthy Harold program. And apparently there is a secondary school module. From my admittedly brief perusal, it seems far more thorough than when I did the program yearly in K-6 - as well it should be. Covering cyber safety and safety in the community. That's a foundation.
        
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        Anonymous Post Author
        
        5 years ago
        
        I know you're referring to leggs.
        
        Yeah I definitely know about healthy Harold. But it's taught at a younger age.
        
        And it doesn't really talk about prevention for rape between sexually active teens, more like things for kids to avoid unsafe situations around adults. I've looked and experienced the program years ago and in my opinion seems more helpful in combating pedophillia.
        
        I'm talking about helping tweens and older. Maybe I was confusing with my English because I used the word kid wrongly.
        
        I live in Melbourne and have voulenteering for most of my working life around young people so I think I know what is going on in my city.
        My English isn't perfect so I don't know if that was clear.
        
        From what I can remember with my own experience with healthy harold. The mascot taught my class about healthy eating, drug and alcohol abuse. There was nothing about rape prevention and it shouldn't be taught at that age either, think I was in prep then so 6/8 years old. Closest thing was to tell someone you trust of anyone touched you inappropriately.
        
        Just to say it again I want to teach rape prevention to 13+ not healthy living like Healthy Harold does to young kids.
        
        I don't understand the specific problem you have with me planning to teach teens this. Could you state exactly what would be wrong or not work out? I just want to help them out.
        Also what was Ellena spot on about? My list is for both genders not just girls, and its just advice and tips, teens are old enough to make their choice to follow or not.
        
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charli.m

5 years ago

Whether your school will allow you to is more to the point.

And while preventing rape by teaching potential victims howto protect themselves is all well and good...why do people rarely go for teaching potential rapists not to fucking rape people?

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  I do have a planed class for that as well actually. But it's hard to find "potential rapist" so one of my plans is also to teach what's illigal and social unacceptable in the culture when it comes to sex to boys and girls. And also made some scenarios to see how they react to them whether I tell them it's rape or not. Since I don't want to target out any pertucular people because it could lead to bullying or isolation. Rather correct them since it's just a scenarios and they haven't done anything wrong yet physically. They're "kids" after all still learning about everything including sex.
  
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  - Ellenna
    
    5 years ago
    
    Your plan seems to be based on the fact that all females are potential rape victims (which is true) so maybe you could proceed on a similar basis with males? Not necessarily true, but that wouldn't be targeting anyone.
    
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      5 years ago
      
      Huh it is? But I didn't say female anywhere in my post did I?
      
      Oh okay so I should generalise more with sceneariors? Or topic in general? I planned to say "person" or a unisex name when I want to teach it. Or is that too confusing?
      
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  - charli.m
    
    5 years ago
    
    You don't need to "find a potential rapist". What the actual fuck?
    
    Educating about consent, in depth instead of simply "No means no". Silence also means no. Coerced yes is also a no. Etc. These are the root of many if not most the rape trials we've heard in the last few years...boys are not taught to respect boundaries or even women in general.
    
    You say you're in Melbourne? Dp you heard the case of Eurydice Dixon? She did all the "right" things re rape prevention. She did what she was taught to be safe. She was still raped and murdered less than 1km from her home.
    
    She was educated on how to "not be raped". That's been part of girls education since I was in highschool. We did self defence at my high school.in the late 90s early 2000s. We had health classes educating us about date rape and prevention strategies. To never leave drinks unattended, never be alone, etc etc. All the stuff you mention has been taught in schools here for a long time.
    
    From what I can understand, my brother's all boys school never received a specific on either protecting themselves from rape OR on not coercing or forcing themselves on someone else. That was a long time ago, but it doesn't sound like much has changed.
    
    It still remains that the onus is on the victim to keep themselves safe, not on the perpetrators to not commit an awful crime in the first place.
    
    Us normal people think it's a given - don't harm another person. But there is a culture within our society that makes rape "ok". It's fucking everywhere. And for the blame and responsibility to be constantly put on the victims? Are people who are mugged ever told they shouldn't have had money or expensive whatever on them so muggers wouldn't be incited to mug them? No. Not remotely to the same degree. They're never told they were asking for it, for certain.
    
    The fact you think to teach this sort of respect that everyone, regardless of gender, should have for others would be a case of "targeting" specific people you judge to be "potential rapists" is disturbing and seems to show you don't have a comprehensive understanding if the situation.
    
    It's not about working out which boys are going to coerce their girlfriends into sex or rape a girl behind a dumpster while she's unconcious like Brock Turner did.
    
    It's about changing the whole culture from victim blaming to encouraging society as a whole to treat others with respect and not for an individual to be so fucking entitled that they think their own need for sex gives them the right to another person's body.
    
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      5 years ago
      
      Okay okay seriously please calm down. My English isn't perfect and a lot has been lost in translation. :/
      
      I don't know the word in English so I just copied your word because you said "potential rapist".
      
      I never victim blame! No no I've talked to rape victims face to face, that actualy hurts my heart that you think that. Where have I victim blame?
      
      Looks like I need to work on my English writing. Feel like you're misinterpreting my true intentions:/
      
      I know I know but I'm not talking about all rape, me alone I'm not cable of solving everything. :(
      Yes of course I've heard of that poor girl she got raped and murdered by her stalker. I haven't talked about that or planed anything around that. I just focusing mainly on rape at clubs or house parties, in social group places where there's a lot of peer pressure.
      
      Sorry if I offended you I just like to have a civil discussion.
      I do really want to help people.
      I see maybe I need to change some things, I don't mean finding potential rapist, um I don't know how explain properly with English but say again: a class I had planned out was to teach all boys and girls what is considered rape so that can help in the future I hope with lowering it just even a tiny bit. I dunno I'm still learning and trying to teach soon.
      
      So should I not teach this at all and stick just to my sciences?
      But my passion to help young boys and girls who suffer alot from life and mental health. :/
      
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    - Bad101
      
      5 years ago
      
      Damn chill!!!!!
      Did you read the fucking post?!
      They just want to teach common sense to young dumb teens lol.
      
      And you said potential rapist first!
      She's obviously having a hard time reading and writing in English, Hense, why she's gonna be teaching science stuff.
      
      Like chill!!!!
      Why are you raging at a girl who just wants to teach teens about rape?! She didn't say anywhere she's looking for potential rapist!
      "But it's hard to find potential rapist" she said that because you said "why do people rarely go for teaching potential rapists not to fucking rape people?"
      
      Haha wtf Charli she's only answering your question and gave a solution: "so one of my plans is also to teach what's illigal and social unacceptable in the culture when it comes to sex to boys and girls. And also made some scenarios to see how they react to them whether I tell them it's rape or not. Since I don't want to target out any pertucular people because it could lead to bullying or isolation." Where the fuck in that paragraph does it sound like she's trying to target potential rapist!?
      
      So you (yes you! Because of what you said re-read what I quoted you on if you doubt it) don't have to target potential rapist like you wanted to!
      
      Lol New year treating you bad already? Tsk tsk
      
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Ellenna

5 years ago

The fact that you're asking for advice on this site is causing me to wonder if you have teaching qualifications and any training in sex & personal relationships training?

If no to their of those two queries, I don't think you should be doing this.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  I just find it easier to talk online about these things then in person. Alot of people get offended now days and I don't like face to face conflict.
  And yes even future teachers can use the internet including IIN. Why is that so hard to believe.
  
  I'm not asking for advice I'm wanting to know how people view it.
  I'm just curious about people's opinions on here. I already got parents opinions.
  
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WeirdGuyFromTheSouth

5 years ago

Teach them to carry a concealed weapon also and when they are walking alone in a sketchy area to hold pepper spray in her hand readyy to spray someone. Predators look for easy victims. If they see her carrying pepper spray its not worth the risk. The pepper spray wont do her any good in her purse.

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leggs91200

5 years ago

Women always claim they were raped or molested at some point in their lives.

Well no wonder, they like to hang out with the grossest, nastiest criminal type guys they can find then they wonder why they were forced to give up the goods. Did they think those guys were wanting to join the church.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  5 years ago
  
  Not really I see it as someone has the right to flaunt their jewelry but doesn't mean the have the right to be robbed. Or if I can say it better because my English isn't perfect. Since I dealt with alot of young rape victims. Either happened from family or other young people or older strangers in the rare case from what I've seen, it's just a sick cruel thing happened to this person and the did not deserve it no matter what they were doing or where they were. I just want to help people to avoid some rape case since it's impossible for all of it to be avoided. But a little help goes a long way in my opinion. And teach the young what is actually considered rape because girls can rape other girls as well and boys can be raped too alot of youth I worked with don't know that (not the rape victims others).
  
  Also wanted to add: rape victims who go through multiple rapes in there live sometimes grow up to be sex workers and we're sexual open when they were in there teens, but usually they suffered from abuse or even sexual abuse.
  So when I see someone in my normal walking life dressing very provocative "not slutty like they look like a sex worker" I'm conserved that they had a very bad childhood and want to help them. I've helped one adult sex worker so far to leave her trade, she was suffering too much abuse.
  
  But I like working with kids and teens.
  
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Is it normal that i want to teach this to "kids"?