Oh sorry, I thought you were OP for a minute. From what I've seen those who push the movement's policies are generally just anti-men and delusional. I've met reasonable feminists, I agree with you wholeheartedly that they do exist, however I think they're in the wrong movement. Most of the reasonable people who truly care about equality have gone over to egalitarianism. I shit you not, they still go on about things like the wage gap, which can be damn easily explained if you actually look into the factors of why it's there. They also just push complete bullshit like "toxic masculinity" and "rape culture." I do agree with you though on the fact there feminists who aren't delusional enough to buy into that crap or generally push for bullshit policies.
Rape culture and toxic masculinity are a problem though.
Just go to any school and boys will openly display their disdain of any other boys who show “weak” emotions. Rape jokes are also common and uncorrected by teachers.
This behavior at happens at work places, in public, on buses, and families even teach it to their children by telling boys to “be a man” and “toughen up”.
Then there’s blatant forms of rape culture, like rape and sexual harassment.
Okay, I think I get your point in regards to toxic masculinity so let's focus on toxic masculinity. The presupposition that men are unnaturally taught to be masculine and "be a man" or "toughen up" or that it's something men shouldn't do is off. The displays like sucking up pain, pushing yourself really hard in a physical task, or not balling your eyes out around your friends is as natural as cats hunting to us men. We're talking about tens of thousands of years of evolution; if your tribe had weak men then your tribe got massacred and the women and children got enslaved. Weak men fell prey to stronger ones throughout pretty much off of humanity's history. You're essentially telling men to go against their biology when you're saying it's alright to be a pussy if you've got hurt, or to over emotional about something or talk about how you're feeling to a large extent. We just won't do it unless we're forced to like the feminists are trying to make us, and we don't like doing it or accepting it, it's off, it's just straight wrong for us.
It’s fine if men want to be tough, but men did not evolve to be emotionless machines. They can be masculine, but there’s a difference between that and toxic masculinity, which teaches emotions are completely unacceptable in men.
IIN that I think women are inferior to men?
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Oh sorry, I thought you were OP for a minute. From what I've seen those who push the movement's policies are generally just anti-men and delusional. I've met reasonable feminists, I agree with you wholeheartedly that they do exist, however I think they're in the wrong movement. Most of the reasonable people who truly care about equality have gone over to egalitarianism. I shit you not, they still go on about things like the wage gap, which can be damn easily explained if you actually look into the factors of why it's there. They also just push complete bullshit like "toxic masculinity" and "rape culture." I do agree with you though on the fact there feminists who aren't delusional enough to buy into that crap or generally push for bullshit policies.
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I agree with you 100%!
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Thanks :) luckily the large majority of people realize it's super twisted and hypocritical at this point so that's something.
Rape culture and toxic masculinity are a problem though.
Just go to any school and boys will openly display their disdain of any other boys who show “weak” emotions. Rape jokes are also common and uncorrected by teachers.
This behavior at happens at work places, in public, on buses, and families even teach it to their children by telling boys to “be a man” and “toughen up”.
Then there’s blatant forms of rape culture, like rape and sexual harassment.
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Oh honey...
Okay, I think I get your point in regards to toxic masculinity so let's focus on toxic masculinity. The presupposition that men are unnaturally taught to be masculine and "be a man" or "toughen up" or that it's something men shouldn't do is off. The displays like sucking up pain, pushing yourself really hard in a physical task, or not balling your eyes out around your friends is as natural as cats hunting to us men. We're talking about tens of thousands of years of evolution; if your tribe had weak men then your tribe got massacred and the women and children got enslaved. Weak men fell prey to stronger ones throughout pretty much off of humanity's history. You're essentially telling men to go against their biology when you're saying it's alright to be a pussy if you've got hurt, or to over emotional about something or talk about how you're feeling to a large extent. We just won't do it unless we're forced to like the feminists are trying to make us, and we don't like doing it or accepting it, it's off, it's just straight wrong for us.
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It’s fine if men want to be tough, but men did not evolve to be emotionless machines. They can be masculine, but there’s a difference between that and toxic masculinity, which teaches emotions are completely unacceptable in men.