Obama and libtards always have the same response to every problem: More Government.
Its not the answer. Especially with guns.
Around the world and in the US wherever you have the strictest gun ownership laws (like Chicago for example) you also have the highest gun crime rates. The problem is not guns, its mental health. Guns dont pull the trigger, people do. We have sick people who need help. And if they cant find a gun they will use knives or whatever else they can find. Should we ban kitchen knives ?
The other problem is who has the guns. Criminals will always have guns, no matter what the laws are. Thats why they're criminals, they dont follow the law. So any gun laws only serve to disarm the good regular citizens who do follow the law
As usual Obama has good intentions but he is horribly naive and mistaken. His proposed solutions are wrong and he has given up on the legislative process because he is unable to compromise. Nearly any type of gun law he proposes, no matter how innocent it seems, is really just a baby step towards trying to take away the peoples guns. The American people know this and have rightly rejected him
I'm pretty positive I know who posted this story and I personally fully agree with you but trying to level with this particular person on this particular subject is futile.
See though, the issue is that when you bring these comparisons into the equation, they don't say a whole lot. Chicago is a high crime city no matter what. Just the area.. not as high standard of living. So, there really is no way to measure how effective a gun law is.
There are always multiple external factors. There is really no way to create a perfect system to "test" these gun laws. Many numbers you find on the internet as well as in legitimate research and what not are biased or manipulated to support a certain point of view on either side.
May I also point out that Obama addressed the need to work on mental health and other factors that contribute to gun crime in his speech.
I am not going to try to argue with either of you guys on this. But there is something to think about.
If its really so hard to figure out statistically what the problem is due to external factors, then that is all the more reason to not rush to do something about it using government.
Obama always talks out of both sides of his mouth. He will say one thing and do another, or say two things and do neither. Make no mistake though, most Americans see right through his current rhetoric. If his ideas were really so common sense and practical, then you have to wonder why he can't just go through the legislative process. The guy is just a weak, ineffective leader, with naive and wrong ideas in his head, anything he does will be quickly overturned by the courts as soon as he is gone, which is coming very very soon
I live in an area where barely anyone I know owns a gun or has ever shot one. And that is how I think it should be.
As far as Obama goes... give the guy a break. It's a tough job. No president is perfect. But if you were in that spot... and you had reports of all these shootings and families who have lost loved ones looking at you to do something... you'd have to probably do something huh? Can't just watch it happen. He's not perfect and not everything he does has been good, but he's not so messed up like so many people think.
Anything takes pushing through legislation.
"doing something" does not automatically equal lower crime. I'm not sure what laws specifically you are referring to. One of Obama's goals was to ban "assault weapons," which would do about nothing to curb gun violence.
Nope, sorry, no sympathy for him. Its a tough job and he lied and cheated his way into office to get it. I give him no break whatsoever, not when ISIS is busy chopping off Americans heads. We need a real leader right now, not this clown we currently have
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Obama and libtards always have the same response to every problem: More Government.
Its not the answer. Especially with guns.
Around the world and in the US wherever you have the strictest gun ownership laws (like Chicago for example) you also have the highest gun crime rates. The problem is not guns, its mental health. Guns dont pull the trigger, people do. We have sick people who need help. And if they cant find a gun they will use knives or whatever else they can find. Should we ban kitchen knives ?
The other problem is who has the guns. Criminals will always have guns, no matter what the laws are. Thats why they're criminals, they dont follow the law. So any gun laws only serve to disarm the good regular citizens who do follow the law
As usual Obama has good intentions but he is horribly naive and mistaken. His proposed solutions are wrong and he has given up on the legislative process because he is unable to compromise. Nearly any type of gun law he proposes, no matter how innocent it seems, is really just a baby step towards trying to take away the peoples guns. The American people know this and have rightly rejected him
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I'm pretty positive I know who posted this story and I personally fully agree with you but trying to level with this particular person on this particular subject is futile.
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I didnt post it for OP, I posted for other people.
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I got you sorry about that. :)
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No need to apologize
See though, the issue is that when you bring these comparisons into the equation, they don't say a whole lot. Chicago is a high crime city no matter what. Just the area.. not as high standard of living. So, there really is no way to measure how effective a gun law is.
There are always multiple external factors. There is really no way to create a perfect system to "test" these gun laws. Many numbers you find on the internet as well as in legitimate research and what not are biased or manipulated to support a certain point of view on either side.
May I also point out that Obama addressed the need to work on mental health and other factors that contribute to gun crime in his speech.
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If its really so hard to figure out statistically what the problem is due to external factors, then that is all the more reason to not rush to do something about it using government.
Obama always talks out of both sides of his mouth. He will say one thing and do another, or say two things and do neither. Make no mistake though, most Americans see right through his current rhetoric. If his ideas were really so common sense and practical, then you have to wonder why he can't just go through the legislative process. The guy is just a weak, ineffective leader, with naive and wrong ideas in his head, anything he does will be quickly overturned by the courts as soon as he is gone, which is coming very very soon
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I live in an area where barely anyone I know owns a gun or has ever shot one. And that is how I think it should be.
As far as Obama goes... give the guy a break. It's a tough job. No president is perfect. But if you were in that spot... and you had reports of all these shootings and families who have lost loved ones looking at you to do something... you'd have to probably do something huh? Can't just watch it happen. He's not perfect and not everything he does has been good, but he's not so messed up like so many people think.
Anything takes pushing through legislation.
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"doing something" does not automatically equal lower crime. I'm not sure what laws specifically you are referring to. One of Obama's goals was to ban "assault weapons," which would do about nothing to curb gun violence.
Nope, sorry, no sympathy for him. Its a tough job and he lied and cheated his way into office to get it. I give him no break whatsoever, not when ISIS is busy chopping off Americans heads. We need a real leader right now, not this clown we currently have