Nothing says "empowerment" like convincing people they are victims of everything around them, even when it has been proven to be untrue. So empowering.
So, hold on. Your idea of equality here is that "white-men" (a mix of racism and sexism. Your movement is so noble) should be poor? Why? They worked to that position, and so they own that position, and they deserve the money they work for.
"Should be forced to wear make up and high heels". Women are not forced to do these things, and so saying men should for what "women" choose to do is ridiculous.
Hey, I got an idea. They wear make up and high heels, and you get strapped with mining equipment and get sent down to the mines. Good deal? Because we know how hard it is to choose to use make up and heels.
"The oppression of making my own choices that are uncomfortable". -Sigh-
"Ridiculous things women have to now just to be attractive".
Well excuse fuckin' me. I forgot that who "men" are attracted to is something "women" should get to choose.
You do not "need" to aim to attract men if you don't want to, but you have "NO" right to try and dictate or shame men for who they are attracted to, because that is "their" choice.
You need feminism because you aren't pretty enough? You need feminism to "FORCE ATTRACTION"?
For fuck sake. You are calling the people that oppose you the pigs? Get a grip and realize who such a label fits more.
"So, hold on. Your idea of equality here is that "white-men" (a mix of racism and sexism. Your movement is so noble) should be poor? Why? They worked to that position, and so they own that position, and they deserve the money they work for."
So what you're trying to say is that white men worked hard to become white men? I'm not saying that white men shouldn't be able to make money, I just think that they shouldn't be given a greater opportunity to have a high qaulity of life than for example, an woman from Saudi Arabia who has all the same skills and talents.
"You need feminism because you aren't pretty enough? You need feminism to "FORCE ATTRACTION"?"
Feminism isn't about how pretty the feminist is. In my personal opinion, a woman with very short hair and no makeup should have their own beauty recognized as well. Society is only less accepting of her because they have been bombarded with constant imagery of airbrushed women who's looks are often times physically impossible. This sets an impossible standard for the women who see these images. And it's not like you can choose not to see them, unless you go live in a cave. Also why is "FORCE ATTRACTION" in quotation marks? I don't recall saying that, especially not in all caps.
I thought this would be good, but now I am realizing that I expect too much from a feminist.
No, white men did not work hard to be white men, white men worked to get in to the positions they are in now, because there are larger quantities of white men with the experience to be in high paying fields than women in Saudi Arabia in quantity that can do the same, thus there will be more white men suited for the roles than women from Saudi Arabia, because with a larger quantity comes the larger chance of people with higher quality in that group of larger quantity.
If there are more white men than Saudi Arabian women, but all have the same skill set, then there will more than likely be more white men put in to those positions because they are the larger quantity.
"Then I always wake up and realize that it's' better we don't make anyone else go through the ridiculous things women have to do now just to be attractive."
You don't "have" to aim towards attracting men, thus you don't "have" to go through the standards of beauty.
If you do want to attract men, then you go through the standards of what men are attracted to. You are showing your dislike for these standards, thus think they are wrong, and so think that men having these standards of beauty are wrong, as if they do not have the right to choose what they are attracted to simply because you dislike what they are attracted to or cannot obtain such a standard.
"n my personal opinion, a woman with very short hair and no makeup should have their own beauty recognized as well."
Oh, they "should", should they? Like I said, you are trying to force attraction. "I think women that do not look the way men find appealing should also be seen as appealing by men".
Not happening. Understand that. You do not get to dictate what men are attracted to. End of. Not happening.
"often times physically impossible. This sets an impossible standard for the women who see these images."
So? Just because we would prefer if people "could" reach those standards does not mean that we "expect" people to reach those standards. Once again, just because "you" (as in all women) cannot reach a standard of beauty, does not mean that men cannot see that beauty as the best type of it. Just because something is unattainable by women does not mean men cannot enjoy it.
If women want to compete with these models, then that is their choice, they don't have to, and we don't expect them to, we may like the images more, but that doesn't mean those images are expected of all women.
You think it's wrong for men to find something sexually attractive in which women cannot obtain? Boohoo. Like I said, male sexuality is not based on if you feel good about yourself. Male sexuality is about "male" sexuality, not "what females can obtain sexually". Our sexuality is not made for "your" self-esteem, nor should it be.
"And it's not like you can choose not to see them, unless you go live in a cave. Also why is "FORCE ATTRACTION" in quotation marks? I don't recall saying that, especially not in all caps."
Well yes, actually, there is. Don't look at them. Simple, right? Ah, not for you, though, right? Aslong as there are things out there that might please men visually and sexually more than you could, then they should not exist at all, right?
-Sigh-
The quotation marks are just a habit of mine where I put emphasis on a certain word or am using what you said in a blunt manner to express how wrong it is.
IIN that I think people who disagree with feminism are all pigs?
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Nothing says "empowerment" like convincing people they are victims of everything around them, even when it has been proven to be untrue. So empowering.
So, hold on. Your idea of equality here is that "white-men" (a mix of racism and sexism. Your movement is so noble) should be poor? Why? They worked to that position, and so they own that position, and they deserve the money they work for.
"Should be forced to wear make up and high heels". Women are not forced to do these things, and so saying men should for what "women" choose to do is ridiculous.
Hey, I got an idea. They wear make up and high heels, and you get strapped with mining equipment and get sent down to the mines. Good deal? Because we know how hard it is to choose to use make up and heels.
"The oppression of making my own choices that are uncomfortable". -Sigh-
"Ridiculous things women have to now just to be attractive".
Well excuse fuckin' me. I forgot that who "men" are attracted to is something "women" should get to choose.
You do not "need" to aim to attract men if you don't want to, but you have "NO" right to try and dictate or shame men for who they are attracted to, because that is "their" choice.
You need feminism because you aren't pretty enough? You need feminism to "FORCE ATTRACTION"?
For fuck sake. You are calling the people that oppose you the pigs? Get a grip and realize who such a label fits more.
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"So, hold on. Your idea of equality here is that "white-men" (a mix of racism and sexism. Your movement is so noble) should be poor? Why? They worked to that position, and so they own that position, and they deserve the money they work for."
So what you're trying to say is that white men worked hard to become white men? I'm not saying that white men shouldn't be able to make money, I just think that they shouldn't be given a greater opportunity to have a high qaulity of life than for example, an woman from Saudi Arabia who has all the same skills and talents.
"You need feminism because you aren't pretty enough? You need feminism to "FORCE ATTRACTION"?"
Feminism isn't about how pretty the feminist is. In my personal opinion, a woman with very short hair and no makeup should have their own beauty recognized as well. Society is only less accepting of her because they have been bombarded with constant imagery of airbrushed women who's looks are often times physically impossible. This sets an impossible standard for the women who see these images. And it's not like you can choose not to see them, unless you go live in a cave. Also why is "FORCE ATTRACTION" in quotation marks? I don't recall saying that, especially not in all caps.
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I thought this would be good, but now I am realizing that I expect too much from a feminist.
No, white men did not work hard to be white men, white men worked to get in to the positions they are in now, because there are larger quantities of white men with the experience to be in high paying fields than women in Saudi Arabia in quantity that can do the same, thus there will be more white men suited for the roles than women from Saudi Arabia, because with a larger quantity comes the larger chance of people with higher quality in that group of larger quantity.
If there are more white men than Saudi Arabian women, but all have the same skill set, then there will more than likely be more white men put in to those positions because they are the larger quantity.
"Then I always wake up and realize that it's' better we don't make anyone else go through the ridiculous things women have to do now just to be attractive."
You don't "have" to aim towards attracting men, thus you don't "have" to go through the standards of beauty.
If you do want to attract men, then you go through the standards of what men are attracted to. You are showing your dislike for these standards, thus think they are wrong, and so think that men having these standards of beauty are wrong, as if they do not have the right to choose what they are attracted to simply because you dislike what they are attracted to or cannot obtain such a standard.
"n my personal opinion, a woman with very short hair and no makeup should have their own beauty recognized as well."
Oh, they "should", should they? Like I said, you are trying to force attraction. "I think women that do not look the way men find appealing should also be seen as appealing by men".
Not happening. Understand that. You do not get to dictate what men are attracted to. End of. Not happening.
"often times physically impossible. This sets an impossible standard for the women who see these images."
So? Just because we would prefer if people "could" reach those standards does not mean that we "expect" people to reach those standards. Once again, just because "you" (as in all women) cannot reach a standard of beauty, does not mean that men cannot see that beauty as the best type of it. Just because something is unattainable by women does not mean men cannot enjoy it.
If women want to compete with these models, then that is their choice, they don't have to, and we don't expect them to, we may like the images more, but that doesn't mean those images are expected of all women.
You think it's wrong for men to find something sexually attractive in which women cannot obtain? Boohoo. Like I said, male sexuality is not based on if you feel good about yourself. Male sexuality is about "male" sexuality, not "what females can obtain sexually". Our sexuality is not made for "your" self-esteem, nor should it be.
"And it's not like you can choose not to see them, unless you go live in a cave. Also why is "FORCE ATTRACTION" in quotation marks? I don't recall saying that, especially not in all caps."
Well yes, actually, there is. Don't look at them. Simple, right? Ah, not for you, though, right? Aslong as there are things out there that might please men visually and sexually more than you could, then they should not exist at all, right?
-Sigh-
The quotation marks are just a habit of mine where I put emphasis on a certain word or am using what you said in a blunt manner to express how wrong it is.
As many times as I've disagreed with you...
...this time, I honestly couldn't have said it better myself.
Thumbs up.