In July the british scientific advisor came out and said 40% of the people in ICUs are vaccinated (he actually said 60% but later said it was opposite because his graph was wrong). At this time 70% of the UK had already had their 2 shots. So yes you can definitely still get a bad case of covid even if you had your shots.
My goodness. When Tucker Carlson slimed his way into your brain last summer, he welded your memory neurons firmly into place, didn't he?
You've repeatedly cited these figures, so they're clearly firmly lodged in your head, even though you know perfectly fucking well that it's anti-vax BS.
First, the figures were for British HOSPITALISATIONS, not patients in ICUs.
Second, over half of the 40% of people who were HOSPITALISED with Covid after being vaccinated had only received one dose. A significant portion of those who had received double doses had received their second vaccination within a few days of them being admitted.
If you were seriously interested in understanding what's really going on currently with regard to vaccinations and cases of Covid that are serious enough to require extreme intervention much closer to home than the UK, you could find this out from credible sources. But I'm sure you're well-shielded from facts by your Carlson Brain Armor™.
Honestly, your counter argument here (which I agree with) is a bit mathematically flimsy. You need to reference Bayes Thereom of statistical inference which is what the Ph.D. researchers are expected to use in academic reviews. Basically, Bayes says the prior probability of being admitted to the hospital given that you have Covid symptoms and are fully vaccinated are likely different from the prior probability of already being in the hospital with Covid symptoms. The missing piece here is non-vaccinated people who have already gotten Covid and recovered without medical assistance.
Your argument does make this inference; and certainly Bayes Theorem is beyond WeirdGuy's horizon of comprehension. The formula is P(A|B) = P(B|A) * P(A) / P(B)
It is disingenuous to call a gene manipulater a vaccine. Polio vaccines are perfect, in that that disease is eradicated. These modern rna gene inhibitors are great, and I have taken one myself, but it is goofy to call it a vaccine, unless you're to change the definition of the word. They are very leaky but they essentially keep you from having massive problems with covid and are particularly benefitial for older adults and/or those with compromised immune systems.
People are getting reinfected all the time, the "vaccines" are leaky af. Ideally one could be "vaccinated", catch covid and get the massively superior antibodies without the likely problems. We should be testing for antibodies if we care, not asking for a card to board a train and surendering freedom.
Forcing anyone, particularly children, is a sick sick cash grab by multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Like I said if you care about safety, check peoples' antibody status, not their "vaccine" card. Find out who is actually immune, not who falls into line.
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In July the british scientific advisor came out and said 40% of the people in ICUs are vaccinated (he actually said 60% but later said it was opposite because his graph was wrong). At this time 70% of the UK had already had their 2 shots. So yes you can definitely still get a bad case of covid even if you had your shots.
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My goodness. When Tucker Carlson slimed his way into your brain last summer, he welded your memory neurons firmly into place, didn't he?
You've repeatedly cited these figures, so they're clearly firmly lodged in your head, even though you know perfectly fucking well that it's anti-vax BS.
First, the figures were for British HOSPITALISATIONS, not patients in ICUs.
Second, over half of the 40% of people who were HOSPITALISED with Covid after being vaccinated had only received one dose. A significant portion of those who had received double doses had received their second vaccination within a few days of them being admitted.
If you were seriously interested in understanding what's really going on currently with regard to vaccinations and cases of Covid that are serious enough to require extreme intervention much closer to home than the UK, you could find this out from credible sources. But I'm sure you're well-shielded from facts by your Carlson Brain Armor™.
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Honestly, your counter argument here (which I agree with) is a bit mathematically flimsy. You need to reference Bayes Thereom of statistical inference which is what the Ph.D. researchers are expected to use in academic reviews. Basically, Bayes says the prior probability of being admitted to the hospital given that you have Covid symptoms and are fully vaccinated are likely different from the prior probability of already being in the hospital with Covid symptoms. The missing piece here is non-vaccinated people who have already gotten Covid and recovered without medical assistance.
Your argument does make this inference; and certainly Bayes Theorem is beyond WeirdGuy's horizon of comprehension. The formula is P(A|B) = P(B|A) * P(A) / P(B)
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Just for your information, recent figures in Victoria, Australia are that 95% of people in ICU because of COVID are UNVACCINATED.
It is disingenuous to call a gene manipulater a vaccine. Polio vaccines are perfect, in that that disease is eradicated. These modern rna gene inhibitors are great, and I have taken one myself, but it is goofy to call it a vaccine, unless you're to change the definition of the word. They are very leaky but they essentially keep you from having massive problems with covid and are particularly benefitial for older adults and/or those with compromised immune systems.
People are getting reinfected all the time, the "vaccines" are leaky af. Ideally one could be "vaccinated", catch covid and get the massively superior antibodies without the likely problems. We should be testing for antibodies if we care, not asking for a card to board a train and surendering freedom.
Forcing anyone, particularly children, is a sick sick cash grab by multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Like I said if you care about safety, check peoples' antibody status, not their "vaccine" card. Find out who is actually immune, not who falls into line.