Yeah but you know my stance on it and have the impression I'm just trying to find any excuse to hit women or anyone. If that was intended as a joke then sorry for misinterpreting you.
I'm not saying that a woman slaps you that you go all Rocky on her or anyone weaker than you but I believe it's extremely acceptable to use the same level of force she displayed against her. A slap for a slap, a punch for a punch, if the same verbosity if not slightly harder. I'm sure you are aware that you can hit people without using full force or even half your strength, especially if you have siblings or something and roughhoused a bit with them growing up.
So I think it needs to be understood that I'm not saying that being slapped by a woman or even a man is enough to use deadly force, and if you're unable to ensure you can dish out an equivilent amount of force as your assualter and to not go overboard with it, then yeah, walk away. I can see that.
About the seven year old, thats à false equivilency and I know you're smart enough to know that. A seven year old is still a child, a woman is an adult who is supposed to be mature and know how to conduct themselves within society. That said, it's not uncommon for a child to get not only restrained but also slapped, on the rear but still slapped, if they hit a parent, anotherperson, or even do something less bad as hitting another person. That's something I can't shake off when it comes to this subject, we will do more to children for less than we would a woman who is violent.
It is a men and women issue though. We can't pretend it isn't. That said, I've taken a step back from all that stuff lately and I still believe what I've expressed.
Second part coming. Phone might die soon so just send this incase. Don't respond until second part or it'll all get confusing. Haha
: D well, shitduz, I wanna just say that since the last time we squabbled, you're argument style has improved so much that it's impressive. I know it probably sounds condescending and rude to say that, but I just wanted to let you know that you've made some really good points, and I do agree with them for the most part.
Btw, my initial comment was a joke.
I suppose our disagreement boils down to the same fundamental point of contention that we had during the last round.
it's just a matter of opinion. It's arguable that if a man is physically assaulted he does have the right to return the favor with equal force. I can see how it's justifiable, and it is, but I still find it wrong. It probably all boils down to a personal and subjective moral opinion, I just think that physically retaliating against someone that you could easily restrain instead is wrong, and it is merely my opinion. at the end of the day, I wouldn't find that behaviour to be personally acceptable or justifiable. I suppose I am dealing from a very personal standpoint, and not addressing the broader issue; I've made the assumption that others think like I do. I just don't see how more violence is a solution to violence, regardless of gender issues.
Also, you are right, using a child as an example was a shitty way to make a point. Children are not comparable to adults...I was just trying to come up with an extreme example of "unmatched" opponents, but you're right- crappy example.
I'm kinda impressed with the argument you've made.
Heey, sorry for late response. Use phone for this for the time being and been swamped at work lately.
Nah, it's fine. It's intended as a compliment so I'm taking it that way. Haha.
I can see your point and it's cool that you can admit it's more of a personal belief/issue for you all while being able to also see my side, even without fully agreeing. Like I said to derpy, I'm not trying to say you have to full on agree personally, I just hope that it's not something you enforce on others, if that makes sense?
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Yeah but you know my stance on it and have the impression I'm just trying to find any excuse to hit women or anyone. If that was intended as a joke then sorry for misinterpreting you.
I'm not saying that a woman slaps you that you go all Rocky on her or anyone weaker than you but I believe it's extremely acceptable to use the same level of force she displayed against her. A slap for a slap, a punch for a punch, if the same verbosity if not slightly harder. I'm sure you are aware that you can hit people without using full force or even half your strength, especially if you have siblings or something and roughhoused a bit with them growing up.
So I think it needs to be understood that I'm not saying that being slapped by a woman or even a man is enough to use deadly force, and if you're unable to ensure you can dish out an equivilent amount of force as your assualter and to not go overboard with it, then yeah, walk away. I can see that.
About the seven year old, thats à false equivilency and I know you're smart enough to know that. A seven year old is still a child, a woman is an adult who is supposed to be mature and know how to conduct themselves within society. That said, it's not uncommon for a child to get not only restrained but also slapped, on the rear but still slapped, if they hit a parent, anotherperson, or even do something less bad as hitting another person. That's something I can't shake off when it comes to this subject, we will do more to children for less than we would a woman who is violent.
It is a men and women issue though. We can't pretend it isn't. That said, I've taken a step back from all that stuff lately and I still believe what I've expressed.
Second part coming. Phone might die soon so just send this incase. Don't respond until second part or it'll all get confusing. Haha
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: D well, shitduz, I wanna just say that since the last time we squabbled, you're argument style has improved so much that it's impressive. I know it probably sounds condescending and rude to say that, but I just wanted to let you know that you've made some really good points, and I do agree with them for the most part.
Btw, my initial comment was a joke.
I suppose our disagreement boils down to the same fundamental point of contention that we had during the last round.
it's just a matter of opinion. It's arguable that if a man is physically assaulted he does have the right to return the favor with equal force. I can see how it's justifiable, and it is, but I still find it wrong. It probably all boils down to a personal and subjective moral opinion, I just think that physically retaliating against someone that you could easily restrain instead is wrong, and it is merely my opinion. at the end of the day, I wouldn't find that behaviour to be personally acceptable or justifiable. I suppose I am dealing from a very personal standpoint, and not addressing the broader issue; I've made the assumption that others think like I do. I just don't see how more violence is a solution to violence, regardless of gender issues.
Also, you are right, using a child as an example was a shitty way to make a point. Children are not comparable to adults...I was just trying to come up with an extreme example of "unmatched" opponents, but you're right- crappy example.
I'm kinda impressed with the argument you've made.
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Heey, sorry for late response. Use phone for this for the time being and been swamped at work lately.
Nah, it's fine. It's intended as a compliment so I'm taking it that way. Haha.
I can see your point and it's cool that you can admit it's more of a personal belief/issue for you all while being able to also see my side, even without fully agreeing. Like I said to derpy, I'm not trying to say you have to full on agree personally, I just hope that it's not something you enforce on others, if that makes sense?
I've impressed you, so imma take a bow. :D