IIN I think we should bring back old fashion values

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  • Sure, economically that would be fine if the man made enough. But the fucking problem with people is that they always feel the need to, if something becomes popular, force others to do the same.

    That leads to people being trapped in shitty lives and marriages, especially women, who are dependent in the situation. I hope you're not small-minded enough to believe that everyone could just live perfectly in your little fantasy, or that the past was ever completely ideal.

    Things are fine as they are. As much as trad-obsessed people would like to say otherwise, housewives still exist. People live that way if they choose. We don't need to be trying to force everyone to live a narrow style of life.

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    • That setup was NOT fine for women stuck in the home and financially dependant on the male. I remember it and lived through the changes women made to have more fulfilling lives.

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      • Some housewives had to have had decent lives though, and a lot of the ones nowadays do, because they have a choice to be in that position. That's not saying you're entirely wrong, however.

        If everyone had OP's mindset, women would be barred from jobs and unable to support themselves well enough to live safely away from abusive and/or controlling situations. Screwed for life, basically. I hate that; people should be allowed the opportunity to rise as high as their own two hands will pull them.

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