Is it normal i think many here don't know what the word 'normal' means?

I've noticed on this site that a lot of people seem to be confused by what the word 'normal' actually means.

Many here think it means something that is OK, permissible, acceptable.

It doesn't.

It means "conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected." This is different.

When you say something 'isn't normal', you're not saying 'I don't like it and I don't think it's right.' You're saying 'that is unusual and unexpected.' It's not a negative judgment by itself.

I've noticed people here voting behaviour quite obviously 'not normal' as 'normal' simply because they think it's acceptable. But this misses the whole point!

is it normal I think a lot of people here don't know what normal means?

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  • "Is it normal for you to die if i blow your head off with a shotgun? Yes, it's Normal."

    This is the right context to use the word "normal".

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    • Exactly.

      See what happens if you replace the word 'normal' with 'acceptable' or 'morally right' in your sentence:

      Is it acceptable for you to die if I blow your head off with a shotgun? Yes, it's acceptable.

      Is it morally right for you to die if I blow your head off with a shotgun? Yes, it's morally right.

      Entertaining, but the entire meaning of the sentence is changed. This just proves that 'normal' and 'OK' aren't interchangeable, and people shouldn't use them as though they are since it just leads to confusion.

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      • Well said.

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  • bananaface

    Both are right. There's more than one definition of normal, you know. But yeah, some people do throw the word around incorrectly. They'll say something is normal just because they want it to be (because they're the same), when it actually isn't, for example. "Normal behaviour" is a bit complex and has a range of different meanings.

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    • Colloquially 'normal' has a connotation of social acceptability. But that's not what the word means.

      I'd always fall back on the definition, otherwise people start mixing in positive or negative judgements depending on their preference (like you said) and that skews results on a website like this.

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    • sega31098

      There's also more than 1 definition of "literally".

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  • Many of the people here can't even type coherently, let alone grasp the true meaning of a word.

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    • Brutal...

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      • Adjective

        1.Savagely violent.
        2.Punishingly hard or uncomfortable.

        Synonyms

        savage - cruel - brutish - bestial - atrocious - brute

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        • That certainly was punishingly hard :P

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          • Made yourself uncomfortable you did.

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  • sega31098

    The problem with IIN is that there is too much group cohesion. Whenever someone sees something that they can relate to they press "Yes" even when it isn't actually normal.

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  • davesumba

    Obviously, by definition the word "normal" means average, and I'm sure most people here know that. But people don't come here with the intention of simply finding out what the average amount of people who do the same thing as them is. They come here to find out the average amount of people who are okay with what they do.

    Take one of the popular examples "IIN to be gay." Obviously, it isn't normal to be gay, but they just want to know if people are okay with them being gay. The people who want to know how many people on IIN are also gay (the 'normal' average), initiate a pole about it (see what I did there;)

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  • Shrunk

    I disagree with others who are saying normalcy is subjective. It's really based on what society as a whole considers normal. That is, whether or not you could let the majority of people know that you do a certain thing, without them shunning you. I also disagree how many people comment stories with "there is no such thing as normal". There surely is, if you have studied psychology or sociology. Whether or not it matters to you, is personal opinion

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  • anti-hero

    I agree.

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  • Shackleford96

    Normalcy is subjective.

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    • What is and isn't normal is subjective, but the definition of 'normal' isn't.

      Just like what is and isn't kind, or stupid, or beautiful is subjective, but the definitions aren't. You see what I mean?

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      • Shackleford96

        Well sure, I know what you're saying. You can't just always take things in the literal sense though. Some questions require a bit of 'user interpretation' if you will.

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  • randomthoughts

    God help us with this site then since most people just vote normal if it's common or they feel the same :O

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  • And stick it up your ass.

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  • randypete

    what is normal for me might not be normal for you its a personal thing

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  • KeddersPrincess

    I honestly agree with you and was thinking the same thing. I think what the website should be is "Is It Healthy?" Because just because something is abnormal doesn't mean it's unhealthy.

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  • hoppy

    Most people see "abnormal" as a negative term, meaning that normal has the same perception as a positive term. You can go with definitions all you want but you have to live in the real world with real people and how they really speak and think.

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  • thegypsysailor

    I agree completely with you.
    However what is normal, "conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected." can change pretty quickly in this modern world of instant communications and travel.
    And it isn't even universal. For instance, if you live in Israel, it is quite "normal" to expect a rocket to fly overhead, or maybe even hit your house, at any time. This is not "normal" in the USA.
    In many places in the middle east is is "normal" to fear going to the corner store because someone is likely to kill you, either by mistake or on purpose. This would not be considered "normal" in the USA or even Canada.
    Or Africa where it is "normal" that hundreds of children die of starvation daily; but that's not "normal" in the USA, is it?
    So all you have to do is take a plane to somewhere else and what's "normal" to you changes a whole lot. I guess some on here can be forgiven if they are a bit confused by the question of what is or isn't "normal".

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    • Oh I understand that what is normal varies from country to country, culture to culture, family to family even. But the basic definition should stay the same - at least I think so.

      But yes, it's understandably confusing to some people :)

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  • Dot123

    I am abnormal.

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  • maila2916

    Honestly, all I see you doing is trying to make a speech. I don't think your really looking for an answer to your question. According to what you said, normal is "conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected" Well your asking us if its expected for you to have a different opinion than others. obviously yes. Could you not use a little logic here? Did you really have a burning question that needed to be answered or were you just seeking approval? So what? People think differently than you and aren't always right. Who gives a flying fuck?

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    • "Well your asking us if its expected for you to have a different opinion than others."

      No I'm not.

      I'm asking if it's "normal I think many here don't know what the word normal means." That was my 'burning question' to the community of IIN.

      If you're not interested, fine. Pick your shoes up off the doorstep and fuck off :)

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  • amaterasu

    This site hasn't been about whether something is normal or not for a long time. I would classify the people here in 3 groups: people who ask questions about weird habits and situations and that truly want to know if someone else has ever experienced the same (the only ones that actually follow the site's premise), people who want to know if something is "correct" or "morally acceptable"... and finally, the most frequent case, people who have a problem and want advice.

    The site should be called "freeamateurpsychologists.com".

    But... I actually like how the site is now. There aren't many places in which people can get help about the topics discussed in the site. If you go beyond the usual trolls, it is easy to find many kind people, who truly care about others and give excellent advice.

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  • What was your point?

    What place is perfect? And, sadly enough, if the people here were so educated why would they be here?

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    • I thought my point was pretty obvious.

      Hopefully this question makes people consider what 'normal' actually means, especially in the context of this website.

      No place is perfect, but that doesn't mean you should stop aspiring to perfect it.

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  • hoppy

    I don't think they're confused at all. If their definition is wrong it does not make them confused. It only makes them wrong (according to your definition).

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  • loopoo

    Many people have different definitions of normal.

    E.g some people may believe it's normal that if someone gives someone permission to eat them and they indeed do eat them then it's normal. Others may see it as cannibalism and wrong no matter what. ;)

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  • GoraIntoDesiGals

    Maybe the site should be "isitacceptable" rather than is it normal. Otherwise every cat fucker should just receive 0% normal votes since fucking cats is indeed not normal. We wouldn't get any feedback of how many cat fuckers there really are but a simple confirmation of what we already know isn't normal.

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    • It could be called IsItOK.com

      :D

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  • howaminotmyself

    It is often used without much thought. But what is normal for me may not be normal for you. And that's okay. And what you think other people think is normal may not actually be what they truly think is normal. Does that make sense?

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    • kelili

      This^

      Quite often my normal is not American's normal.

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      • howaminotmyself

        That's one of the things I like about you.

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  • dom180

    I think what is "expected" and what is "right" are usually the same thing, actually. Not always, but usually. If we're going by dictionary definitions, abnormal means "deviating from what is normal or usual, *typically in a way that is undesirable*".

    I think normal can mean different things in the different contexts. You've got to read the context and make a judgement. Really, it hardly matters much how you define it so long as you explain what you're meaning.

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    • Abnormal is no longer the perfect antonym of normal, though. The pejorative aspect has actually become part of the definition.

      Normal, on the other hand, isn't inherently desirable, that isn't part of its definition. You don't see 'typically in a way that is desirable' attached to the definition.

      Some people will use the word 'normal' negatively, as in "It was so boring, so utterly normal!" Some will use it positively, as in "It's so refreshing to meet somebody that's totally normal!" But that doesn't change the core definition.

      The problem is when people assume that normal is inherently positive. That's something you see here a lot. For those actually seeking to find out how common or usual their situation is, that can be pretty deceptive. When you have a voting system based on 'IIN: Yes or No' the results are going to be influenced by this positive vs. negative judgement. Things that aren't normal but are acceptable could be voted 'normal', things that are normal but aren't acceptable could be voted 'not normal'.

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      • dom180

        I think that's an inherent problem when language is subjective rather than exact. The way people talk isn't the same as the dictionary definitions. Perception of normality is always going to be coloured by subjectivity because normality itself is subjective, regardless of the definition. So I think people are smart enough to know that rating on IIN aren't exact science: just because 9 people say something is "normal" and 1 person says it's "not normal" doesn't necessarily mean anything. I think it's the comments most people are interested in, and you can easily work out from the comments individually what definition they're working by.

        I also think most comments and voters can tell from the context of the question what the OP would find most useful to know.

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        • Maybe you're right.

          I do think there is confusion. I've experienced this myself, with people assuming my comment of something 'not being normal' was a negative judgement. Or my assuming a comment of something being 'normal' was judging something common, when it fact it was judging something 'OK'.

          It would be beneficial to have some kind of consensus on a website like this, don't you think?

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          • dom180

            Yeah, I won't deny there's *some* room for confusion. I think if there's a problem to be solved, the best solution would be just asking OPs to be more clear as to what exactly they want answered, so there's some flexibility to allow the OP to decide what they want.

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  • squeallikeasacofpigs

    Like omg this is so racist

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  • handsignals

    So are you saying it is normal to suck a dudes dick even if your straight (I'm a guy)???

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    • It's only normal if the dude is your brother. Then it's totally not gay.

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    • davesumba

      Actually it is completely normal/natural to be aroused by the acts of sex, no matter what the gender. It's only the media and established generations that put the social stigma on it.

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