What do OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony have to do with Zimmerman or the race-related point I was making? Nothing? But thanks for mentioning OJ Simpson, it brings a great extra point. Remember how no whites rioted at his acquittal? I rest that case.
Secondly, I laugh if you really believe all those voters were well informed on the issues and legitimately believed because of it that Obama was the best candidate. In either case, voting for free entitlements is easy and destructive to the country as a whole. Rewarding laziness will lead to ruin. It's a conflict of interest to vote for someone who might take those away from you. Even a lab rat is intelligent enough to avoid getting shocked and grab a piece of cheese. I personally know plenty of people receiving government money who could work. Plus, thanks for agreeing that they would just plain love to see a black president. That's the problem, why should it matter what ethnicity he is?
Those 'pathetic attempts at saying I'm sorry' shouldn't exist in the first place. Enough with the 'White Guilt.' I'm not upset because there are no white people scholarships, way to completely miss the point I was trying to demonstrate. They need to stop looking down and feeling sorry for themselves and WORK for things like everyone else. That is true equality. No perks, no penalties, just your own sweat, blood, and merit. Did it ever occur to you, even just once, that maybe, on the average, some of these people just don't even try? We live in America, and you really believe things are that hard for you to get an education and make something of yourself because you're a minority?? *facepalm* Try being motivated, and don't wait for the government entitlement hand to feed you.
What's wrong with you? "There is still no equality" Just get out of here dude, or come back with a serious comment. With a name like 'slutzombie' you probably don't scratch beneath the surface of issues too often.
My point with OJ and Anthony is that just because he was acquitted doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong.
While I believe welfare has it's place in America, and sounds great in theory, I believe it is extremely abused and causes more harm than anything. Good intentions- but it needs to be very well regulated.
And just as some blacks voted for Obama because of his race, I'm sure plenty of whites chose not to vote for him for the exact same reason.
It's not about white guilt. Nobody is trying to make you feel guilty for being white. Up until the 60s and even later on, minorities were oppressed. Because of that, it was harder for them to get jobs, make money and live well, and the pattern continues to this day. The reason the majority of blacks live in poverty is directly related to the fact that they did NOT have equal rights for a very long time.
People that abuse welfare should definitely not be limited to minorities, by the way. I agree that if you're capable of working, you should not be on welfare, because then you are taking money away from the people that actually need it. Never once did I suggest people should abuse welfare.
I also never said I will have a hard time making something of myself or getting an education. But people that grow up in the projects, with little to no money, (mostly blacks) yes, they will have a harder time than most people.
You're making ridiculous assumptions. I'm just trying to point out that if (and yes, its true, I can find you some links if you'd like) a man can make more money than a female doing the same job, there is still no equality.
I'm sorry people were oppressed or disadvantaged in the 60s and earlier, but people today take advantage of their strife for free bonuses. It's not right or equal, it's just reversing the sides.
This keeps going back to poverty being their primary disadvantage, more so than actual discrimination on the part of employers or other organizations. This raises an interesting thought, why not base the scholarships on their poverty instead of their race? There are plenty of poor white people, and well off minorities. That doesn't seem perfect, but better than saying, hey, you're not white, here's free money for college.
Lastly, it said seeking diversity in the workplace, not equal wages among the genders. So, I don't really think the strive for diversity is solving the problem of men making more than women. A lot of jobs with salaries tend to be partly negotiated. Maybe on average more men are assertive in this factor? I really don't know, and I don't think men should make more for the 'exact same job.' But Affirmative Action has not solved this.
Yes, poverty is their disadvantage, and reasons for that trace back to the times when they were discriminated against. So their poverty and history are directly correlated.
Diversity is a good thing- and I highly doubt that an employer would hire somebody less qualified than you because they are not white. That is discrimination, and if that really is the case, it's completely against the law.
I do believe there are some scholarships based on income, but not 100% sure. That is an interesting thought though.
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I'm so sorry, did you read anything I wrote?
What do OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony have to do with Zimmerman or the race-related point I was making? Nothing? But thanks for mentioning OJ Simpson, it brings a great extra point. Remember how no whites rioted at his acquittal? I rest that case.
Secondly, I laugh if you really believe all those voters were well informed on the issues and legitimately believed because of it that Obama was the best candidate. In either case, voting for free entitlements is easy and destructive to the country as a whole. Rewarding laziness will lead to ruin. It's a conflict of interest to vote for someone who might take those away from you. Even a lab rat is intelligent enough to avoid getting shocked and grab a piece of cheese. I personally know plenty of people receiving government money who could work. Plus, thanks for agreeing that they would just plain love to see a black president. That's the problem, why should it matter what ethnicity he is?
Those 'pathetic attempts at saying I'm sorry' shouldn't exist in the first place. Enough with the 'White Guilt.' I'm not upset because there are no white people scholarships, way to completely miss the point I was trying to demonstrate. They need to stop looking down and feeling sorry for themselves and WORK for things like everyone else. That is true equality. No perks, no penalties, just your own sweat, blood, and merit. Did it ever occur to you, even just once, that maybe, on the average, some of these people just don't even try? We live in America, and you really believe things are that hard for you to get an education and make something of yourself because you're a minority?? *facepalm* Try being motivated, and don't wait for the government entitlement hand to feed you.
What's wrong with you? "There is still no equality" Just get out of here dude, or come back with a serious comment. With a name like 'slutzombie' you probably don't scratch beneath the surface of issues too often.
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My point with OJ and Anthony is that just because he was acquitted doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong.
While I believe welfare has it's place in America, and sounds great in theory, I believe it is extremely abused and causes more harm than anything. Good intentions- but it needs to be very well regulated.
And just as some blacks voted for Obama because of his race, I'm sure plenty of whites chose not to vote for him for the exact same reason.
It's not about white guilt. Nobody is trying to make you feel guilty for being white. Up until the 60s and even later on, minorities were oppressed. Because of that, it was harder for them to get jobs, make money and live well, and the pattern continues to this day. The reason the majority of blacks live in poverty is directly related to the fact that they did NOT have equal rights for a very long time.
People that abuse welfare should definitely not be limited to minorities, by the way. I agree that if you're capable of working, you should not be on welfare, because then you are taking money away from the people that actually need it. Never once did I suggest people should abuse welfare.
I also never said I will have a hard time making something of myself or getting an education. But people that grow up in the projects, with little to no money, (mostly blacks) yes, they will have a harder time than most people.
You're making ridiculous assumptions. I'm just trying to point out that if (and yes, its true, I can find you some links if you'd like) a man can make more money than a female doing the same job, there is still no equality.
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I think we both agree on the issue of welfare.
I'm sorry people were oppressed or disadvantaged in the 60s and earlier, but people today take advantage of their strife for free bonuses. It's not right or equal, it's just reversing the sides.
This keeps going back to poverty being their primary disadvantage, more so than actual discrimination on the part of employers or other organizations. This raises an interesting thought, why not base the scholarships on their poverty instead of their race? There are plenty of poor white people, and well off minorities. That doesn't seem perfect, but better than saying, hey, you're not white, here's free money for college.
Lastly, it said seeking diversity in the workplace, not equal wages among the genders. So, I don't really think the strive for diversity is solving the problem of men making more than women. A lot of jobs with salaries tend to be partly negotiated. Maybe on average more men are assertive in this factor? I really don't know, and I don't think men should make more for the 'exact same job.' But Affirmative Action has not solved this.
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Yes, poverty is their disadvantage, and reasons for that trace back to the times when they were discriminated against. So their poverty and history are directly correlated.
Diversity is a good thing- and I highly doubt that an employer would hire somebody less qualified than you because they are not white. That is discrimination, and if that really is the case, it's completely against the law.
I do believe there are some scholarships based on income, but not 100% sure. That is an interesting thought though.