Shit is getting pretty scary. People are literally disappearing without a trace after the government takes them in. Recently this happened in Chicago to a group of people who were planning a protest at some NATO event. No one knew where they were for 3 days.
I've even read that riot police have started using sexual violence against women to egg the male protestors into getting violent.
But as far as what you're saying about the Occupy protests, they need to help themselves too. In every video I've seen of police brutality at Occupy, I've seen just as much violence from the protestors. They resist arrest, they shout "fuck the police" and "fuck you pigs", and just curse and spit.
The kids at the University of Davis in California did it right... they were entirely nonviolent and it got them national attention. If the other occupy protestors want to get people to take them seriously, they need to.
1. actually make a list of demmands, which they still haven't done.
and 2. Be so radically nonviolent that people can't help but see the police brutality.
At the same time as things are gettin scary over here, we have to remember that we do still live in one of the most free places in the world. This is terrifying to us because we've lived in such relative safety, but think about all the countries still ruled by dictators. We aren't there yet. We can still assemble, still have internet, still have due process for the most part.
But we may not have that shit for much longer if we don't fight for it
*edit* And this is kinda bothering me too. I hate that groups like the Neo Nazis and the KKK are allowed to freely protest in this country. But if we took away their right to assembly, couldn't that set a precedence that you can try to bar the free speech of any group of people who are considered "offensive?"
IIN I'm sick of Americans complaining about how terrible America is
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Shit is getting pretty scary. People are literally disappearing without a trace after the government takes them in. Recently this happened in Chicago to a group of people who were planning a protest at some NATO event. No one knew where they were for 3 days.
I've even read that riot police have started using sexual violence against women to egg the male protestors into getting violent.
But as far as what you're saying about the Occupy protests, they need to help themselves too. In every video I've seen of police brutality at Occupy, I've seen just as much violence from the protestors. They resist arrest, they shout "fuck the police" and "fuck you pigs", and just curse and spit.
The kids at the University of Davis in California did it right... they were entirely nonviolent and it got them national attention. If the other occupy protestors want to get people to take them seriously, they need to.
1. actually make a list of demmands, which they still haven't done.
and 2. Be so radically nonviolent that people can't help but see the police brutality.
At the same time as things are gettin scary over here, we have to remember that we do still live in one of the most free places in the world. This is terrifying to us because we've lived in such relative safety, but think about all the countries still ruled by dictators. We aren't there yet. We can still assemble, still have internet, still have due process for the most part.
But we may not have that shit for much longer if we don't fight for it
*edit* And this is kinda bothering me too. I hate that groups like the Neo Nazis and the KKK are allowed to freely protest in this country. But if we took away their right to assembly, couldn't that set a precedence that you can try to bar the free speech of any group of people who are considered "offensive?"