IIN I'm sick of Americans complaining about how terrible America is

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  • Mentioning the negatives of something is how you get those negtives noticed so they can be fixed and turned in to positives, if we don't criticise about things we see as terrible, how are we to acknowledge what things that are terrible need changed?

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    • That's true, but most people who complain are doing nothing about the things they want changed. Sometimes it almost appears as if it is "cool" for someone to hate their own country in USA.

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      • I think that's my major point that I probably should have mentioned.

        I feel that the majority of people who complain about the US complain about because "It's cool" to hate their own country, and it pisses me off.

        When in the history of the US has it ever been perfect? When in the history of the US has it truly been better than it has been now? There is always something wrong with the US, there's always something wrong with every country. It will never get any better in our lifetime and if it will, we'll be too busy complaining about the president and the government to see it.

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      • Quit bitching, start a revolution.

        (protip: the organization that coined that slogan doesn't exactly practice what they preach... but it's a damn good slogan)

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        • no one starts revolutions any more man they all died years before the internet

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        • You say you want a revolution
          Well, you know
          We all want to change the world
          You tell me that it's evolution
          Well, you know
          We all want to change the world
          But when you talk about destruction
          Don't you know that you can count me out
          Don't you know it's gonna be all right
          All right, all right

          You say you got a real solution
          Well, you know
          We'd all love to see the plan
          You ask me for a contribution
          Well, you know
          We're doing what we can
          But when you want money
          For people with minds that hate
          All I can tell is brother you have to wait
          Don't you know it's gonna be all right
          All right, all right
          Ah

          Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

          You say you'll change the constitution
          Well, you know
          We all want to change your head
          You tell me it's the institution
          Well, you know
          You better free you mind instead
          But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
          You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
          Don't you know it's gonna be all right
          All right, all right
          All right, all right, all right
          All right, all right, all right

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          • no such thing as evolution. I'm sorry but they've tried to prove it for years and it all points to the bible. so they keep trying anyway.You can call me an ass but its true.

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        • It's pretty hard to start a revolution when the government tries to shoot down the common man's attempts. This country is hypocritical. They say that people have a right to gather for peaceful protest, but every time it happens the authorities get sent in and people get hurt. Look at the Wall street Protest or the infamous Kent State Shooting. "The Freedoms" let bad things like hate speech/prejudice go unpunished! In european countries open racism isn't tolerated. The last I checked, in Britain they'll kick you out of the country if you're openly a racist. France put John Galliano on trial for his anti-semitic remarks. This country should enforce laws like that, but too many cowards/racists are in control. If you read the news with these supposed bills, it's like this already "extreme" country is turning into a dictatorship. It's insane what these politicians are being allowed to do! Then there's the Monsato and it's GMOs which are helping to destroy our planet more and we all know what the settlers did to the Natives Americans. >_<

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          • Shit is getting pretty scary. People are literally disappearing without a trace after the government takes them in. Recently this happened in Chicago to a group of people who were planning a protest at some NATO event. No one knew where they were for 3 days.

            I've even read that riot police have started using sexual violence against women to egg the male protestors into getting violent.

            But as far as what you're saying about the Occupy protests, they need to help themselves too. In every video I've seen of police brutality at Occupy, I've seen just as much violence from the protestors. They resist arrest, they shout "fuck the police" and "fuck you pigs", and just curse and spit.

            The kids at the University of Davis in California did it right... they were entirely nonviolent and it got them national attention. If the other occupy protestors want to get people to take them seriously, they need to.
            1. actually make a list of demmands, which they still haven't done.
            and 2. Be so radically nonviolent that people can't help but see the police brutality.

            At the same time as things are gettin scary over here, we have to remember that we do still live in one of the most free places in the world. This is terrifying to us because we've lived in such relative safety, but think about all the countries still ruled by dictators. We aren't there yet. We can still assemble, still have internet, still have due process for the most part.

            But we may not have that shit for much longer if we don't fight for it

            *edit* And this is kinda bothering me too. I hate that groups like the Neo Nazis and the KKK are allowed to freely protest in this country. But if we took away their right to assembly, couldn't that set a precedence that you can try to bar the free speech of any group of people who are considered "offensive?"

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