Trans women still dominate real women. Even if (HYPOTHETICALLY) the HRT was able to mitagate 99 percent of the advantages of being a male, that would still be unfair to the real women competing. There was a powerlifter who is a guy and went 'trans' he proceeded to set EVERY RECORD POSSIBLE in 'her' weight class in 'her' first meet. New squat record, new bench record, new deadlift record and new total record for the weight class. Many records were broken by a good 30-40 pounds.
I suggest you look into it more - trans women don't actually have a significant advantage in competitive sports.
Also, transwomen *are* real women, and there's no need to put "her" in quotes. You might not think it's a big deal, but language matters. Try to use "cisgender" instead of "real" next time.
As a cis person who isn't very invested in sports of any kind, I'm not all that interested in a debate on this.
That being said.
Here's a systematic review on trans people in sports published in 2016 that concludes that evidence so far suggests that transwomen have no significant advantage: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40279-016-0621-y. It's the only review I could find, but if you can dig up any that say otherwise, go ahead.
There's little evidence that trans people who have gone through their transition (a transwoman isn't just a man in a wig, you know) participating in sports is unfair, and if it is, categories could be developed irregardless of gender (here's an article https://www.lboro.ac.uk/research/spotlights/transgender-in-sport/ by a PhD student on the subject that details more analytical arguments). According to Joanna Harper, a physicist and transwoman, (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/do-transgender-athletes-have-an-edge-i-sure-dont/2015/04/01/ccacb1da-c68e-11e4-b2a1-bed1aaea2816_story.html and here's her research on the subject: https://cgscholar.com/bookstore/works/race-times-for-transgender-athletes?category_id=common-ground-publishing), "hormone therapy for trans women typically involves a testosterone-blocking drug plus an estrogen supplement. As their testosterone levels approach female norms, trans women see a decrease in muscle mass, bone density and the proportion of oxygen-carrying red cells in their blood. The estrogen, meanwhile, boosts fat storage, especially around the hips. Together, these changes lead to a loss of speed, strength and endurance — all key components of athleticism." These ideas seems to be backed up by the evidence I linked above. After all, every athlete has advantages and disadvantages, many out of their control, and it doesn't look like transgender athletes have any real edge.
As for your thing, "looking into it" does not equate to googling someone else that agrees with your preexisting belief and linking their video back. I don't want to waste time watching a 16 minute video of some random guy with no qualifications ranting at the mic, and he has no articles linked in the description whose validity I could assess. There's just nothing to suggest this guy is a valuable or reliable source in any way. Summarize his points (and evidence) for me if you're going to use them - I'm not doing your research for you. Sorry if I sounded harsh - but I try to type out arguments myself, linking evidence and expert opinions just to verify I'm not making it up. I feel like you should do the same as a courtesy.
People born men have s greater distribution of fast twitch muscle fibers which help in an explosive event. They have a greater lung capacity which helps in endurance events. They have greater bone mineral densities that reduce injury rate and increase capacity for force output. Men don't have to deal with the mass of breast tissue affecting agility and explosiveness. Men don't have the discomfort and hormonal changes associated with the menstrual cycle that can inhibit performance both physiologically and psychologically by serving as a distraction. People born men have stronger ligaments and connective tissue across their entire body which lowers injury rate and can also increase power output. All of things things are EFFECTED by hormone treatment but not fully resolved.
Keep in mind that part of my studies are to do with athletic performance and physical. And even if HRT is 99% effective which I doubt it is, it's still unfair to real women. There's a big confirmation bias that is trying to make it politically correct but its horribly unfair and painfully obvious to everyone who knows shit about sports performance. I don't need to look into it I study this type of shit for my job I just thought you wouldn't care about my credentials which is what people usually say on here. Anyone who thinks there is no advantage whatsoever is fucking stupid and very politically motivated.
I think they do have a significant advantage. Did you read about the powerlifter? Transwomen are men. And vice versa. Men with injected estrogen and wearing a dress are still men and I will call them he no matter what they say sorry. Free speech for the win!
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Trans women still dominate real women. Even if (HYPOTHETICALLY) the HRT was able to mitagate 99 percent of the advantages of being a male, that would still be unfair to the real women competing. There was a powerlifter who is a guy and went 'trans' he proceeded to set EVERY RECORD POSSIBLE in 'her' weight class in 'her' first meet. New squat record, new bench record, new deadlift record and new total record for the weight class. Many records were broken by a good 30-40 pounds.
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I suggest you look into it more - trans women don't actually have a significant advantage in competitive sports.
Also, transwomen *are* real women, and there's no need to put "her" in quotes. You might not think it's a big deal, but language matters. Try to use "cisgender" instead of "real" next time.
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Here I looked into it some more
https://youtu.be/Y1Fkld9PPO4
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As a cis person who isn't very invested in sports of any kind, I'm not all that interested in a debate on this.
That being said.
Here's a systematic review on trans people in sports published in 2016 that concludes that evidence so far suggests that transwomen have no significant advantage: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40279-016-0621-y. It's the only review I could find, but if you can dig up any that say otherwise, go ahead.
There's little evidence that trans people who have gone through their transition (a transwoman isn't just a man in a wig, you know) participating in sports is unfair, and if it is, categories could be developed irregardless of gender (here's an article https://www.lboro.ac.uk/research/spotlights/transgender-in-sport/ by a PhD student on the subject that details more analytical arguments). According to Joanna Harper, a physicist and transwoman, (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/do-transgender-athletes-have-an-edge-i-sure-dont/2015/04/01/ccacb1da-c68e-11e4-b2a1-bed1aaea2816_story.html and here's her research on the subject: https://cgscholar.com/bookstore/works/race-times-for-transgender-athletes?category_id=common-ground-publishing), "hormone therapy for trans women typically involves a testosterone-blocking drug plus an estrogen supplement. As their testosterone levels approach female norms, trans women see a decrease in muscle mass, bone density and the proportion of oxygen-carrying red cells in their blood. The estrogen, meanwhile, boosts fat storage, especially around the hips. Together, these changes lead to a loss of speed, strength and endurance — all key components of athleticism." These ideas seems to be backed up by the evidence I linked above. After all, every athlete has advantages and disadvantages, many out of their control, and it doesn't look like transgender athletes have any real edge.
As for your thing, "looking into it" does not equate to googling someone else that agrees with your preexisting belief and linking their video back. I don't want to waste time watching a 16 minute video of some random guy with no qualifications ranting at the mic, and he has no articles linked in the description whose validity I could assess. There's just nothing to suggest this guy is a valuable or reliable source in any way. Summarize his points (and evidence) for me if you're going to use them - I'm not doing your research for you. Sorry if I sounded harsh - but I try to type out arguments myself, linking evidence and expert opinions just to verify I'm not making it up. I feel like you should do the same as a courtesy.
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People born men have s greater distribution of fast twitch muscle fibers which help in an explosive event. They have a greater lung capacity which helps in endurance events. They have greater bone mineral densities that reduce injury rate and increase capacity for force output. Men don't have to deal with the mass of breast tissue affecting agility and explosiveness. Men don't have the discomfort and hormonal changes associated with the menstrual cycle that can inhibit performance both physiologically and psychologically by serving as a distraction. People born men have stronger ligaments and connective tissue across their entire body which lowers injury rate and can also increase power output. All of things things are EFFECTED by hormone treatment but not fully resolved.
Keep in mind that part of my studies are to do with athletic performance and physical. And even if HRT is 99% effective which I doubt it is, it's still unfair to real women. There's a big confirmation bias that is trying to make it politically correct but its horribly unfair and painfully obvious to everyone who knows shit about sports performance. I don't need to look into it I study this type of shit for my job I just thought you wouldn't care about my credentials which is what people usually say on here. Anyone who thinks there is no advantage whatsoever is fucking stupid and very politically motivated.
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I see a lot of analyticals and a lack of actual evidence. Care to disprove the review I linked?
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/19/we-hear-you-when-transgender-athletes-crush-the-girls/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjy74nZ1KPkAhUBDKwKHQXVBUYQFjAEegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw30eOy_kbphOz3uXjdEnufZ&cf=1
The link didn't work. Most of the claims I "made up" came from the video you refused to watch I linked and the sources they cited.
Here is a fairly politically neutral fitness site and their info. The links to studies are at the bottom in case that's the only thing you care about.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.t-nation.com/opinion/trans-athletes-the-death-of-womens-sports&ved=2ahUKEwiz4ev_0qPkAhUQIqwKHU4jABIQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1qKC-1aNxL53tgM04QhPre
I think they do have a significant advantage. Did you read about the powerlifter? Transwomen are men. And vice versa. Men with injected estrogen and wearing a dress are still men and I will call them he no matter what they say sorry. Free speech for the win!