So then what ins and outs of the situation would make a difference here? If the person is dead, they are dead.
And I find it ironic that mae and probably you by extension view an act like that as "selfish". I guess those people an obligation to you to stick around even though they found no joy or pleasure in life at all.
It was selfish of them to do it, but its not selfish for you to call them as such??
Yeah, that's not irony. I know it's a confusing word for some people, so I've linked you this article to help you out: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1085-irony/
I am not an extension of Mae. I offered no opinion on whether her friend was selfish or not. I'm simply saying that it is unkind of you to try and make her feel bad about it, when suicide is an extremely emotionally complex situation. I empathise with her, I posted this story, I have suffered the suicide of a close friend, and I can understand why some people might view it as a selfish thing to do. That's all.
Yeh you are totally right. What the hell have I been thinking? That friend of yours had a complete and total obligation just to YOU and not to themselves to keep living their life just because YOU were in it. After all it wasnt really their life to decide what to do with it, I mean right? YOU were in it after all.
Totally and completely selfish act for them do it. Their life wasnt their own to decide what to do with. YOU were in it.
Sure its irony. Its ironic that you empathize with someone who thought another's suicide was selfish but don't see it being selfish yourself when that person calls that same suicidal person selfish. Apparently the person in question had an obligation to others that outweighed their obligation to themselves. Your argument is like me saying I empathize with bums not wanting to work but I don't agree with it.
It's more like, if you stabbed your mum, you might have reasons for why you did it which I empathise with (like she was an alcoholic or abusive), but despite my empathising with your position, I still wouldn't think you stabbing her was ok.
You don't know what empathy means, do you? Here's another useful website: www.oed.com
Discover the story of English! Now, as I don't reason with morons, I shall not be responding to any further comments. Please do not confuse this with you getting the last word :)
So now you are teaching English lessons, though try as you might you arent doing a good job, was that your major in college? You do know what college is right? How ironic if it was and you still cant realize that my example for empathy is exactly the same as yours just using different scenarios. Its funny how a certain amount of education, albeit gained online since you like using links to prove points since you arent creative enough to think of them yourself, can give those that use them the idea of being intelligent.
Oh, I just thought of something else, how ironic it is that you use the term moron towards me!
I dont really care one way or another who would have the last word.
IIN for this encounter with a suicidal person to play on my mind?
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So then what ins and outs of the situation would make a difference here? If the person is dead, they are dead.
And I find it ironic that mae and probably you by extension view an act like that as "selfish". I guess those people an obligation to you to stick around even though they found no joy or pleasure in life at all.
It was selfish of them to do it, but its not selfish for you to call them as such??
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Yeah, that's not irony. I know it's a confusing word for some people, so I've linked you this article to help you out: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1085-irony/
I am not an extension of Mae. I offered no opinion on whether her friend was selfish or not. I'm simply saying that it is unkind of you to try and make her feel bad about it, when suicide is an extremely emotionally complex situation. I empathise with her, I posted this story, I have suffered the suicide of a close friend, and I can understand why some people might view it as a selfish thing to do. That's all.
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Yeh you are totally right. What the hell have I been thinking? That friend of yours had a complete and total obligation just to YOU and not to themselves to keep living their life just because YOU were in it. After all it wasnt really their life to decide what to do with it, I mean right? YOU were in it after all.
Totally and completely selfish act for them do it. Their life wasnt their own to decide what to do with. YOU were in it.
Hows that for irony?
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That's still not irony?
And if you'd read my comment you'd understand that I didn't say it was selfish, I said I empathise with Mae, not that I agree with her.
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Sure its irony. Its ironic that you empathize with someone who thought another's suicide was selfish but don't see it being selfish yourself when that person calls that same suicidal person selfish. Apparently the person in question had an obligation to others that outweighed their obligation to themselves. Your argument is like me saying I empathize with bums not wanting to work but I don't agree with it.
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No. You're not very clever are you?
It's more like, if you stabbed your mum, you might have reasons for why you did it which I empathise with (like she was an alcoholic or abusive), but despite my empathising with your position, I still wouldn't think you stabbing her was ok.
You don't know what empathy means, do you? Here's another useful website: www.oed.com
Discover the story of English! Now, as I don't reason with morons, I shall not be responding to any further comments. Please do not confuse this with you getting the last word :)
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So now you are teaching English lessons, though try as you might you arent doing a good job, was that your major in college? You do know what college is right? How ironic if it was and you still cant realize that my example for empathy is exactly the same as yours just using different scenarios. Its funny how a certain amount of education, albeit gained online since you like using links to prove points since you arent creative enough to think of them yourself, can give those that use them the idea of being intelligent.
Oh, I just thought of something else, how ironic it is that you use the term moron towards me!
I dont really care one way or another who would have the last word.