I do have people I look back on that were generous and selfish of course.
I just dont think someone who was in so much pain that they felt they had no other choice other then ending their own life by their own hands is a selfish person.
I think they deserve to be judged a little less harshly then that.
I think it's ironic that you are judging mae for judging her friend, when in reality you have no idea of the ins and outs of the situation. Everyone has a choice.
So then what ins and outs of the situation would make a difference here? If the person is dead, they are dead.
And I find it ironic that mae and probably you by extension view an act like that as "selfish". I guess those people an obligation to you to stick around even though they found no joy or pleasure in life at all.
It was selfish of them to do it, but its not selfish for you to call them as such??
Yeah, that's not irony. I know it's a confusing word for some people, so I've linked you this article to help you out: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1085-irony/
I am not an extension of Mae. I offered no opinion on whether her friend was selfish or not. I'm simply saying that it is unkind of you to try and make her feel bad about it, when suicide is an extremely emotionally complex situation. I empathise with her, I posted this story, I have suffered the suicide of a close friend, and I can understand why some people might view it as a selfish thing to do. That's all.
Yeh you are totally right. What the hell have I been thinking? That friend of yours had a complete and total obligation just to YOU and not to themselves to keep living their life just because YOU were in it. After all it wasnt really their life to decide what to do with it, I mean right? YOU were in it after all.
Totally and completely selfish act for them do it. Their life wasnt their own to decide what to do with. YOU were in it.
Sure its irony. Its ironic that you empathize with someone who thought another's suicide was selfish but don't see it being selfish yourself when that person calls that same suicidal person selfish. Apparently the person in question had an obligation to others that outweighed their obligation to themselves. Your argument is like me saying I empathize with bums not wanting to work but I don't agree with it.
IIN for this encounter with a suicidal person to play on my mind?
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I do have people I look back on that were generous and selfish of course.
I just dont think someone who was in so much pain that they felt they had no other choice other then ending their own life by their own hands is a selfish person.
I think they deserve to be judged a little less harshly then that.
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I think it's ironic that you are judging mae for judging her friend, when in reality you have no idea of the ins and outs of the situation. Everyone has a choice.
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So then what ins and outs of the situation would make a difference here? If the person is dead, they are dead.
And I find it ironic that mae and probably you by extension view an act like that as "selfish". I guess those people an obligation to you to stick around even though they found no joy or pleasure in life at all.
It was selfish of them to do it, but its not selfish for you to call them as such??
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Yeah, that's not irony. I know it's a confusing word for some people, so I've linked you this article to help you out: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1085-irony/
I am not an extension of Mae. I offered no opinion on whether her friend was selfish or not. I'm simply saying that it is unkind of you to try and make her feel bad about it, when suicide is an extremely emotionally complex situation. I empathise with her, I posted this story, I have suffered the suicide of a close friend, and I can understand why some people might view it as a selfish thing to do. That's all.
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Yeh you are totally right. What the hell have I been thinking? That friend of yours had a complete and total obligation just to YOU and not to themselves to keep living their life just because YOU were in it. After all it wasnt really their life to decide what to do with it, I mean right? YOU were in it after all.
Totally and completely selfish act for them do it. Their life wasnt their own to decide what to do with. YOU were in it.
Hows that for irony?
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That's still not irony?
And if you'd read my comment you'd understand that I didn't say it was selfish, I said I empathise with Mae, not that I agree with her.
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Sure its irony. Its ironic that you empathize with someone who thought another's suicide was selfish but don't see it being selfish yourself when that person calls that same suicidal person selfish. Apparently the person in question had an obligation to others that outweighed their obligation to themselves. Your argument is like me saying I empathize with bums not wanting to work but I don't agree with it.