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I had a friend who was suicidal, I tried to help her .. but she didn't want help ~ i think she wanted love of her father and everything else didn't matter ....... now i look back i think she is selfish minded, she killed herself ... she could have helped make some unloved children's life more bright, or done so many good things for others .. but she only cared about her own feelings.
I can't judge her, cos i don't know how she thought deep down ... but my opinion is she was blinded by her own pain and selfish desires.
Its unfair to label suicidal people as "selfish", its also easy to do since they arent around anymore to explain their actions or feelings at all.
While its true there is a possibility that if your friend didnt die she would be around to make a child's life bright, or make an overall positive impact on the world. Its also important to point out suicidal people dont think like that. They really cant think or see beyond their own feelings of helplessness. Many of them are so lost they believe that what they are doing is something "good" or that it would be a favor to friends and family if they werent around anymore. Sure this will be a catastrophic blow to friends and family, but it will be the last mistake, the last pain they will put any of them through.
This is important to note I think. Sorry for the loss of your friend.
I do have people I look back on that were generous and selfish of course.
I just dont think someone who was in so much pain that they felt they had no other choice other then ending their own life by their own hands is a selfish person.
I think they deserve to be judged a little less harshly then that.
I think it's ironic that you are judging mae for judging her friend, when in reality you have no idea of the ins and outs of the situation. Everyone has a choice.
So then what ins and outs of the situation would make a difference here? If the person is dead, they are dead.
And I find it ironic that mae and probably you by extension view an act like that as "selfish". I guess those people an obligation to you to stick around even though they found no joy or pleasure in life at all.
It was selfish of them to do it, but its not selfish for you to call them as such??
Yeah, that's not irony. I know it's a confusing word for some people, so I've linked you this article to help you out: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1085-irony/
I am not an extension of Mae. I offered no opinion on whether her friend was selfish or not. I'm simply saying that it is unkind of you to try and make her feel bad about it, when suicide is an extremely emotionally complex situation. I empathise with her, I posted this story, I have suffered the suicide of a close friend, and I can understand why some people might view it as a selfish thing to do. That's all.
IIN for this encounter with a suicidal person to play on my mind?
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I had a friend who was suicidal, I tried to help her .. but she didn't want help ~ i think she wanted love of her father and everything else didn't matter ....... now i look back i think she is selfish minded, she killed herself ... she could have helped make some unloved children's life more bright, or done so many good things for others .. but she only cared about her own feelings.
I can't judge her, cos i don't know how she thought deep down ... but my opinion is she was blinded by her own pain and selfish desires.
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Its unfair to label suicidal people as "selfish", its also easy to do since they arent around anymore to explain their actions or feelings at all.
While its true there is a possibility that if your friend didnt die she would be around to make a child's life bright, or make an overall positive impact on the world. Its also important to point out suicidal people dont think like that. They really cant think or see beyond their own feelings of helplessness. Many of them are so lost they believe that what they are doing is something "good" or that it would be a favor to friends and family if they werent around anymore. Sure this will be a catastrophic blow to friends and family, but it will be the last mistake, the last pain they will put any of them through.
This is important to note I think. Sorry for the loss of your friend.
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i didn't label suicidal people as selfish ... I said "now i look back i think she is selfish minded"
its my opinion about one person i knew.
don't you ever have a friend from past, you looked back and think something like they were very generous ? or very selfish ?
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I do have people I look back on that were generous and selfish of course.
I just dont think someone who was in so much pain that they felt they had no other choice other then ending their own life by their own hands is a selfish person.
I think they deserve to be judged a little less harshly then that.
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I think it's ironic that you are judging mae for judging her friend, when in reality you have no idea of the ins and outs of the situation. Everyone has a choice.
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So then what ins and outs of the situation would make a difference here? If the person is dead, they are dead.
And I find it ironic that mae and probably you by extension view an act like that as "selfish". I guess those people an obligation to you to stick around even though they found no joy or pleasure in life at all.
It was selfish of them to do it, but its not selfish for you to call them as such??
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Yeah, that's not irony. I know it's a confusing word for some people, so I've linked you this article to help you out: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1085-irony/
I am not an extension of Mae. I offered no opinion on whether her friend was selfish or not. I'm simply saying that it is unkind of you to try and make her feel bad about it, when suicide is an extremely emotionally complex situation. I empathise with her, I posted this story, I have suffered the suicide of a close friend, and I can understand why some people might view it as a selfish thing to do. That's all.